Witches' Halloween Ball [Game Over]

[Firebringer]

RC hasn't really explained reads this game. I wouldn't expect him to answer ur questions nancy

[Nancy Drew 39]

RC hasn't really explained reads this game. I wouldn't expect him to answer ur questions nancy

But someone has too and adding to the fact that my predecessor’s pairing - if our PT is any indication - was “The War of the Roses” - minus the chandelier - isn’t helping much either. :/

[Kokichi Oma]

Hi Nancy

Hi, nice to not be in a hydra for a change.

Blessing

[Kokichi Oma]

Can we lynch fire

Why is Fire scummy? I’m assuming you’re townreading Gamma then?

Check my recent iso. Has the case

[Sakura Hana]

I've been too much into games lately that I almost forgot this game existed

[Sakura Hana]

I dont think I trust Dunn's TR on MariaR.

[Sakura Hana]

VOTE: Dunnstral and MariaR
I think this is where I want to be.

[Sakura Hana]

I still think the way LLD interacted with Short should make Nancy town anyhow.

[RadiantCowbells]

Basically like all the pairings that aren't chibiskies need to die and drewva39 needs to be lynched in 4 way if the game continues

I'm not finding it easy to care about doing anything beyond that and if I half ass a case it just makes it easier for scum to discredit the plan after I'm gone.

[RadiantCowbells]

Let's kill mariastral since Maria has expressed intent to not follow the plan and Firebringer is a freebie tomorrow

[DVa]

@Nancy, since you wanted explanations, here's where I am rn:

Townie
Kokichi Oma -- I've read Kokichi's town games, and this looks like his town game

Dunnstral -- I didn't correctly sort him in BoR and don't have confidence in my read. RC insists he's town; I thought opening with a reads list was unusual. At this point there's other people that are scummier. (Very much wish I'd pushed back on RC flipping his read on Dunn and danced here instead at this point)

Brian Skies -- Most of my read here was based on

Is it too early to volunteer as tribute?

which struck me as a ballsy gambit if scum

he could be townier tho

ChibiBear -- Fine with this being newgreen until I see a Gamma flip, at which point I go back to:

Gamma - Feels like he's posted a fair but but hasn't said much, definitely keeping an eye on him.

which did not, at the time, strike me as a genuine reaction to Gamma's slot based on what had been posted until that point

Malakittens -- There's been so little new content here for a while that I'm worried game will stall with her alive forever, and she's with Cakez who seems scummy. 'acceptable losses for a cakez flip'? that's kinda cold but kinda how I see it

Princess Celestia --

MariaR getting involved here is not good and she is attacking our confirmed town RadiantCowbells

While I don't townread Maria, I thought this particular attack on Maria was kinda weird at the time--I can see the POV a bit more now

Firebringer -- I don't know how to sort this slot even after having glanced through two of his other games. A little concerned since my last "poe null-->town" ended up flipping scum tho

MariaR --

So I believe fire when he says he forgot how many scum were in this game.

Maria hates me for coming back to this again but this post pinged me really hard. We've talked about this post so I wouldn't bring it up except it's still on my mind

I don't think your reads will have more influence in your death as you think they will. Will some people respect them and maybe use them for reasoning to some extent? Sure scum will if scum is in that pairing and town might too.

Frankly I just don't know *what* Maria was trying to accomplish with this post and so it bothers me

SirCakez --

LLD's sort of taking command looked town to me. I don't think she takes that tone as scum from my (admitedly vague) meta recollections.

didn't like this then, don't like it now

also never liked his suspicions of Karmeleon

Gamma Emerald --
didn't like him going after Karmeleon here

This doesn’t feel right to me. He seems to be trying to subvert the argument.

shortaru --

RadiantCowbells - duh
Gamma Emerald - I think town?
Dunnstral - scummy
Karmeleon - scummy

MariaR - towny, would dance
DVa - scummy, doesn't feel like genuine posting
Moment - towny, would dance
Sakura Hana - towny would dance (but alas, she has her sights elsewhere)
Firebringer - I can't get a read on this... everything in me screams scum, but wtf would scum be so blatant for?
Lady Lambdadelta - scummy

Putting aside the read on me which I didn't like, what really bothered me was why Gamma would be a leantown based on his posts, why karmy would be scummy, and *how he decided* LLD was scummy. In retrospect this read list almost looks too accurate based on the evidence that was available at the time.

He also was trying to play up being new green in points such as this:

Still learning the ropes in forum Mafia. Been churning through the wiki to get a handle on strategy, action resolution, and power roles (oh dear God the power roles!)

scummy

with all that, Gamma/Fire and Cakez/Mala both seem like, as pairings, the best places to look for a flip today to me

at this point it's quite obvious shortaru was a manipulative little fucker. I don't know that makes him 100% lockscum but he roleplayed the newbie card way too hard and had some wild fucking reads, so unfortunately Nancy, I think there's a solid chance you replaced into a scum slot at this point

[RadiantCowbells]

Freebie as in free lynch not that he's 100% flipping scum.

I'm happy with what seems to me the natural lunch order in Maria -> Fire -> Cakes -> Kokichi -> DVa pairings

[Kokichi Oma]

Lunch sounds good

[RadiantCowbells]

I too am hungry and would love food

[DVa]

RC did the House reveal change your read of Shortaru considering how much he played the newbie card?

And, since you're keen on the Maria pairing, did your read of Dunn change again? cause tbh I honestly can't keep track of your read on that slot

[RadiantCowbells]

I think he could be scum maybe but I still don't think he's scum with you and that's what matters to me!

[Dunnstral]

Reminder that rc threatened to put shortaru into final 2 if he didn't get his way

Maybe non-sakura players will be capable of thinking for themselves

[DVa]

What about Dunn?

Also what are you jamming to rn? Any good tunes to suggest?

[RadiantCowbells]

Lolololooololololol

[RadiantCowbells]

I think LLD would know better than to want to pair with town and be at threat of being walked out on so I think dunnstral is scum

[RadiantCowbells]

From there fire > sircakez > kokichi > Maria as the likely scumbuddies

Trend towards thinking mala and Celestia are town

[Dunnstral]

I think LLD would know better than to want to pair with town and be at threat of being walked out on so I think dunnstral is scum

I'm going to link to all other places where you've "thought I'm scum" and been wrong and then maybe you can stop scumreading me every single game?

[RadiantCowbells]

Hmm let's read our last game together

[Dunnstral]

good read dunn

i also think that gamma might be scum

'but you just said gamma was town'

no I just wanted to see if he'd vote jiffy if I buddied him

because i'm not voting jiffy anymore and am going back to being honest about my reads?

dunnchan u know how i feel about u

Seems pretty bad. Your case on him seems pretty junk though? I really think its just maru and you not seeing that is bothering me.

mmm

I still think you're scum ftr and the oh chickadee is bad but hey look at this juicy maru wagon doesn't make me feel any better about you.

Alchemist is still scum but I'm starting to waver on my read on the gamestate outside of that.

If Dunn's scum then Jiffy probably isn't, though Dunn could absolutely be town.
Maru is plausibly scum given her absolute refusal to engage with me despite me reaching out to her a billion times in which case Chamber would be town which isn't really implausible. I don't really dislike his iso

I'm a lot more certain on townreads and like specific relationship pairings than my reads on everyone

Oh yeah Jiffy is still scum upon reread, nevermind. So that puts Dunn in the townbin.
RC/Vonflare/Gamma/Irrelephant/Invisibility
only Vonflare/Invis could even really be considered as scum at this point fmpov and I don't think that either of them are so pretty solidly town even outside of being on a D1 scum wagon

MariaR/Dunnstral/Chickadee is a hammer and I don't think any of them are scum anymore but I'll at least put chickadee in the scumpool a bit later
That leaves Alchemist/Jiffy + 1/2 Maru/Chamber + 2/4 Horrordude/Sadnadog/Penguin/Chickadee

this is a meme tier read but I think penguin would already have voted with me by now so he can be one
and 1/2 of horror/sadnadog, can give Maria this one and say it's sadnadog

ok, here's our last game together. I was scum.

[DVa]

Shrodinger's Dunnstral -- scum if you're looking at him, not scum if you're not?

Dunnstral does your alignment in mafia prove string theory is real?