Open 738: Purgatory | LA FIN

[the worst]

quack

[Keyser Söze]

That narrative on Creature works.
Interested to see where they decide to push.


Now gonna re-read Rat’s ISO with your mixtape playing in my ears.

[the worst]

recommended listening for Rat's ISO
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... mpVtjTqI9G

[ManateeDude]

Did you know?

Lions and tigers can crossbreed to create a species known as Ligers..

Votecount 1.03

the worst (3) - LabRat01, Keyser Soze, Irrelephant
Keyser Söze (2) - Lefty, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde
Carmen (1) - LabRat01,
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (1) - Carmen
LabRat01 (1) - the worst
Not Voting - Creature, volxen,

Time till end of hell phase 1: (expired on 2018-11-15 17:00:00)

[Irrelephant11]

My first thought is I caught scum!tw from Presidents but my second thought is that I could maybe come around
Convince me lab is scum (that was your takeaway, yes?)
Oh and creature, talk to me more on that slot @tw

[the worst]

i don't know what you expect wrt creature
what's your read on lab?

[the worst]

and sorry relly :c i love catching teh scumz as much as the next adorbs animal but sadly you're on the wrong track this time

[volxen]

Did you know?

Lions and tigers can crossbreed to create a species known as Ligers..

Votecount 1.03

the worst (3) - LabRat01, Keyser Soze, Irrelephant

Keyser Söze (2) - Lefty, Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde
Carmen (1) - LabRat01,
Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde (1) - Carmen
LabRat01 (1) - the worst
Not Voting - Creature, volxen,

Time till end of hell phase 1: (expired on 2018-11-15 17:00:00)

I'm pretty sure there is at least one scum among [TW, Rat, Keyser, and Rel]. I don't think it's that likely that TW, as town, would get up to L-2 so quickly on the second day of day one with no scum involvement.

I don't think TW and Rat are scum together, with them cross voting each other, and with TW's detailed casing of Rat. It seems really unnecessary for them to try to mutually distance themselves and start wagons against each other this early on day one if they are scumbuddies.

I do wish TW would case Keyser to the same degree that he has cased Rat, but he seems to want to hold back on this for some reason.

Out of [TW, Rat], Rat definitely has far more scum equity in my opinion. TW's casing of Rat felt genuine, whereas Rat's interactions with others came off as scummy to me. For example:

wanna check it for me?

Nah, it's not there.

VOTE: Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde

aww, that's a shame VOTE: carmen
I'm p sure some form of it should be there though, cuz the bracket thingy is written in my RC
wanna check it again? or are you lying in order for someone to notice this "contradiction" and derp you as town?

ugh, I was talking about the town RC if it wasn't obvious

I was re-reading the thread and noticed that my post could be understood as a disgusting joke
that vote was half-serious, it was not pure RvS, so read it as so

and c'mon, someone write sth
it's boring being here alone

I don't think Rat really had a good reason for "seriously" voting Carmen here, and she did say that the vote was "half-serious".

how do you read Key's entrance to the thread btw? I wanna try and sort him as quickly as possible so I can comfortably resume quoting The Usual Suspects and burninating scum.

Was the “I wanna try to sort Key as quick as possible” supposed to be an excuse for asking Left to post reads?

No?
but it def feels that way

OR it feels like your question to Lefty was just an excuse to show off your great town motivations.

Which one do you pick?

I don’t like the previous post either (the one I joked about). It’s prob not directly scum motivated, but it feels a really safe and non-personal way of questioning someone.

Why did Rat make such a big deal about this? All TW did was ask Lefty what he thought of Keyser's entrance -- I don't see how that's really LAMIST, which is what Rat seems to be implying here. Yes everyone should be sorting players and coming up with their own reads, but there is nothing wrong with asking player X what they think about player Y, as long as you are still sorting everyone else in addition to that. Rat seems to be suggesting that TW want's other people to sort Keyser for him so he doesn't have to do the work of sorting Keyser himself, which I don't think is accurate at all. She is also suggesting here that TW's motivation in asking the question was to appear LAMIST, as opposed to him actually wanting to know what Lefty thought of Keyser's entrance.

What’s your take on Soze so far? Is the ‘I thought it was just two goons’ and then the break down of DrJ/Rat following that line of thought something you think they’d do/are capable of as scum?

You know, sth like that could prob be faked by a 5-year old.
Possibly younger

It kinda feels like you didn't want to appear useless so decided to write

anything

that might appear helpful without actually considering if it makes sense to ask about that.

Do not do it like that. If you want to do sth, you can comment on the stuff:
-I wrote about duck,
-keyser wrote about me&DrJ,
-DrJ wrote about me/keiser
-or w/e.
Just pick a wagon and go with it, there’s no need to be wary here

Again, here Rat is criticizing someone for asking a question regarding Keyser. I don't think her criticism of Lefty was really warranted here -- he asks a question about Keyser, and she insinuates that his reason for asking the question was to appear like he was doing something, as opposed to it being a question he genuinely wanted answered. In other words, she is again suggesting that the motivation behind the question was to purposefully appear LAMIST, as opposed to it just being a question that Lefty wanted answered. It's just odd that on two different occasions, two different people ask a question about Keyser, and Rat attacks (unreasonably IMO) both TW and Lefty for asking their respective questions about Keyser. I would think town!Rat would understand that this game isn't just about everyone forming their own reads in isolation and then presenting their readslist to the rest of the group, but it's largely a game that involves interacting with everyone else to understand their motivations, which includes asking players questions such as, "what did you think about X from player Y?" The fact that Rat's initial reaction to both questions about Keyser was to immediately label them as attempts to be LAMIST rather than as genuine questions that were asked to gather information to help gamesolve, seems much more likely to come from scum than town.

VOTE: LabRat01

[Keyser Söze]

My first thought is I caught scum!tw from Presidents but my second thought is that I could maybe come around
Convince me lab is scum (that was your takeaway, yes?)
Oh and creature, talk to me more on that slot @tw

Just gonna put my honest thoughts on paper, after sleeping on it:

TW entered the game scummy/‘different’

Re-entered thread (with 3 votes on them) as a man possessed. Very sure of town-Dr J, and very sure of scum-Rat. It was just the degree/intensity of the reads that I found off.

Yes, town are allowed to change their reads but their whole nature and perspective changed about RVS.

[Wearing my tin foil hat, TW came back into the thread to bus his teammate.]

However, if I am wrong about TW, TW has still presented a passionate case on Lab which I think I am willing to vote. Let’s see Rat come back into the thread first though because based on her last posts she looked defeated and exhausted.

Meanwhile, Volxen our old friend (Hiya!) has entered the thread instantly stating there is one scum in Player W, X,Y,Z by looking at a single early D1 wagon. This is definitely more of a confident and composed Volxen than we last saw from our previous game.

Has Lab limped our the thread and posted in the scum PT to be bussed? Or has TW and Volxen simply found scum? Something doesn’t feel right here.

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Keyser.....are you trying to steer us off your scumbuddy?
Answer honestly

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser.....are you trying to steer us off your scumbuddy?
Answer honestly

I feel like even if Lab flips scum, I would still not send you to heaven.

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser.....are you trying to steer us off your scumbuddy?
Answer honestly

And here you’re already linking me with labrat.

You saying me defending / town leaning / wanting to give Rat room as “trying to steer us off (my) scumbuddy” again feels too intense.

I.e TMI. Why can’t I be a townie with a wrong read here?

[Keyser Söze]

@volxen putting associations, VCA and scum partner theories aside, are you t/reading the worst independently?

[the worst]

Keyser.....are you trying to steer us off your scumbuddy?
Answer honestly

And here you’re already linking me with labrat.

You saying me defending / town leaning / wanting to give Rat room as “trying to steer us off (my) scumbuddy” again feels too intense.

I.e TMI. Why can’t I be a townie with a wrong read here?

this is too much goddamnit man i just wanted you to be town just this once FUCK

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

I'm

Korina probably town
LCP very town

we are the same alignment, no need to sort us seperately?
I suppose tbh we are playing a bit disjointed rn, but once we figure it out a bit more that will hopefully improve
I'd also like to see reasoning for that?

lcp

[Keyser Söze]

Keyser.....are you trying to steer us off your scumbuddy?
Answer honestly

And here you’re already linking me with labrat.

You saying me defending / town leaning / wanting to give Rat room as “trying to steer us off (my) scumbuddy” again feels too intense.

I.e TMI. Why can’t I be a townie with a wrong read here?

this is too much goddamnit man i just wanted you to be town just this once FUCK

Again, why can’t I be town who isn’t scum-reading Labrat?

This overdramatic foreplay still doesn’t answer my question.

Why am I scum forcefully ‘steering’ off players from my ‘scumpartner’?

This new narrative about me and labrat being scum partners is very concerning.

[Keyser Söze]

If you had a guilty on LabRat I would understand: me trying to slow down Rat’s wagon does look bad...

But you are demonstrating suspicious-TMI or OTT-confirm bias. Which one is it?

[Creature]

Me same level as creature?

Yeah, you're probably below

[Creature]

Also I'd probably rave a lot during RVS like I did when I entered this thread.

[Creature]

Goons aligned with the town seems funny. I wouldn't notice it myself though.

[Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde]

I'm honestly a little confused at tw town-reading me so heavily based of meta from

January

this year (the "I wear my heart on my sleeve" part? As far as I know its still in my chest ) and possibly reading another game where I was scum. I'd probably call it an attempt to buddy me, given I know him from back then, and am possibly likely to respond by TRing him.

UNVOTE:

I need to look a little closer at tw's ISO

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I'm

Korina probably town
LCP very town

we are the same alignment, no need to sort us seperately?
I suppose tbh we are playing a bit disjointed rn, but once we figure it out a bit more that will hopefully improve
I'd also like to see reasoning for that?

lcp

this post is so wholesome!!
i've explained plenty, lmk if you want more.

[Creature]

he appeared itt when called out

I'm always called out when I don't post in the first two pages. Just because someone posted "oh where is creature?", doesn't mean I entered the thread just because of that.

[Creature]

Also if I was scum I'd be more willing to give townreads. I'm rn struggling to get decent reads.

[the worst]

Keyser.....are you trying to steer us off your scumbuddy?
Answer honestly

And here you’re already linking me with labrat.

You saying me defending / town leaning / wanting to give Rat room as “trying to steer us off (my) scumbuddy” again feels too intense.

I.e TMI. Why can’t I be a townie with a wrong read here?

this is too much goddamnit man i just wanted you to be town just this once FUCK

Again, why can’t I be town who isn’t scum-reading Labrat?

This overdramatic foreplay still doesn’t answer my question.

Why am I scum forcefully ‘steering’ off players from my ‘scumpartner’?

This new narrative about me and labrat being scum partners is very concerning.

i asked you a question, i'm not pushing the fact i s/s read you all that hard atm because i was hoping you'd laugh it off and give me more shiny content.
what's your angle here? like fyi i'd rather flip labby first and work it out from there but i don't townread you either and there's nothing that's disallowing me from reading you guys as s/s

what's the aversion to this question?