Mini Normal 2044: Game over!

[ReaperOfSouls]

Not that it matters to anyone, but just for accuracy's sake, this is actually my 8th game. I just counted.

Over what period of time? Games in one specific section of the forums?

[Clemency]

Do you think that Clemency has a weak town game?

This is my 7th game only, so take my word for it's worth. I don't see her play as weak, because those scums were really good in last game. In fact I've seen weak players and Clem is not one of them.

aww you're just fluffing me up

Clemency -- is your pronoun 'he' or 'she'? Does it matter to you?

100% doesn't matter but technically it's he
just use whatever seems cool to you

[bji]

Not that it matters to anyone, but just for accuracy's sake, this is actually my 8th game. I just counted.

Over what period of time? Games in one specific section of the forums?

Since December 2014 so about 4 years now.

I found that I enjoyed the more limited structure of smaller games with more well defined roles so I have stuck with that. I believe that aside from my newbie game, I have only played mini normal games.

Around the holiday season I get a hankering for Mafia for some reason. The season just reminds me of the game I guess since the first game I played was over Christmas break 2014.

Usually I get really enthusiastic about Mafia and play a game, then am reminded about the parts that usually suck (lurkers and people who just go awol and waiting for replacements, also people who get really insulting and terrible) and don't play for a long time again. Then the cycle repeats.

And here we are.

[bji]

Urgh ... resist urge to wall ... must resist ...

[Clemency]

i believe in you, buddy

[Raya36]

I'm here now too

I've played with Skitter and Flubber before and I think that's it. It's been a while since I've played though so I'm just going to pretend I don't know anybody and start fresh.

[bji]

come on lets get some activity going
i can't be the most active person here
that means

i have to lead
and leading is effort

hm, well, i meant that they had a clutch moment where they almost threw but then 180 saved the game but;

i guess playing well as town is simply being trustworthy and leading while being aggressive towards anything that seems off

i'm not very good at town myself

so i tend to play for self-preservation but

i'm looking to change that somewhat

If you are not good as town, are you good as scum?

wouldn't know, haven't gotten enough scum games in yet

Which aspect of good town play are you specifically not good at? a) Being trustworthy, b) leading, or c) being aggressive towards anything that seems off?

tempted to say all of the above but i'm gonna go with b

)

Anyone else notice the lack of coherency here?

Clemency first complains about potentially having to lead, then later says that he is looking to change his weak townie game, and then admits that leading is his worst townie trait.

Seems that if Clemency wanted to get better as townie and his worst townie trait was leadership, he wouldn't complain at the beginning about feeling like he has to lead. And if he was going to complain, it would probably be more along the lines of "i have to lead and leading is not my strong suit" than "i have to lead and leading is effort".

I hereby state that Clemency is scum playing a chatty opener.

VOTE: Clemency

[bji]

By the way according to my reading that's 3 votes for Clemency, so next vote puts him at L-1.

[Clemency]

haha, fuck off
VOTE: bji

[bji]

OMGUS already, scum?

[Raya36]

I have some thoughts on this but I'd like to here a proper defense from Clemency before I share

[Clemency]

By the way according to my reading that's 3 votes for Clemency, so next vote puts him at L-1.

two can play at the same game:
notice how our subject uses the word "according"
by this we can make the assumption that this person doesn't have the best family life, and they have inadequate genitals
i will now continue to tunnel this player for the rest of the game off of this pure undeniable fact

[Clemency]

sigh, you want a defense?

"he wouldn't complain at the beginning about feeling like he has to lead." assumption.
"And if he was going to complain, it would probably be more along the lines of "i have to lead and leading is not my strong suit" than "i have to lead and leading is effort" assumption.
"I hereby state that Clemency is scum playing a chatty opener." assumption.
you've written the narrative for yourself, and you're not gonna drop it until i'm dead
i know how this goes

[Raya36]

But would you complain about having to lead if you knew that was your weakest skill as a townie?

Also do you believe it is reasonable to see a chatty opener as a potential scumtell?

[bji]

I'm just a townie taking a leadership role while being aggressive towards anything that seems off ... why you voting for your top town read Clemency?

[Clemency]

I'm just a townie taking a leadership role while being aggressive towards anything that seems off ... why you voting for your top town read Clemency?

"oh man i hate it when people get aggressive"
"oh also lets be a smartass"

[Clemency]

But would you complain about having to lead if you knew that was your weakest skill as a townie?

what? yeah? obviously?

Also do you believe it is reasonable to see a chatty opener as a potential scumtell?[/quote]
talking is alignment indicative now got it

[Clemency]

and people wonder why i tend to lurk day 1

[Clemency]

come on lets get some activity going
i can't be the most active person here
that means

i have to lead
and leading is effort

hm, well, i meant that they had a clutch moment where they almost threw but then 180 saved the game but;

i guess playing well as town is simply being trustworthy and leading while being aggressive towards anything that seems off

i'm not very good at town myself

so i tend to play for self-preservation but

i'm looking to change that somewhat

If you are not good as town, are you good as scum?

wouldn't know, haven't gotten enough scum games in yet

Which aspect of good town play are you specifically not good at? a) Being trustworthy, b) leading, or c) being aggressive towards anything that seems off?

tempted to say all of the above but i'm gonna go with b

)

Anyone else notice the lack of coherency here?

Clemency first complains about potentially having to lead, then later says that he is looking to change his weak townie game, and then admits that leading is his worst townie trait.

Seems that if Clemency wanted to get better as townie and his worst townie trait was leadership, he wouldn't complain at the beginning about feeling like he has to lead. And if he was going to complain, it would probably be more along the lines of "i have to lead and leading is not my strong suit" than "i have to lead and leading is effort".

I hereby state that Clemency is scum playing a chatty opener.

VOTE: Clemency

you see this type of stuff just really pisses me off
you have nothing to go off of so you just pull shit out of thin air but you write this narrative that gets put into everyone's head
there's no defense i can make to this that will make me sound any less scummy but if i say nothing you're just gonna brand me as a lurker and have me lynched anyway

[Raya36]

But would you complain about having to lead if you knew that was your weakest skill as a townie?

what? yeah? obviously?

Also do you believe it is reasonable to see a chatty opener as a potential scumtell?

talking is alignment indicative now got it[/quote]
Not what I was implying. I was wondering what you thought

[Clemency]

But would you complain about having to lead if you knew that was your weakest skill as a townie?

what? yeah? obviously?

Also do you believe it is reasonable to see a chatty opener as a potential scumtell?

talking is alignment indicative now got it

Not what I was implying. I was wondering what you thought[/quote]

sorry i'm just pissed off since this shit happens every game
i don't believe anything in rvs or near it is a scumtell ever

[bji]

sorry i'm just pissed off since this shit happens every game
i don't believe anything in rvs or near it is a scumtell ever

What shit happens every game?

Scumhunting? You might want to play a different game then ...

For what it's worth, I think that rvs is generally to be ignored but I have definitely seen chatty scum openers and called them in the past. In my limited experience it comes mostly from newbie scum though, those who haven't played scum much or ever and for whom the concept of having to open a game as scum leads to nervous chatter.

[Clemency]

sorry i'm just pissed off since this shit happens every game
i don't believe anything in rvs or near it is a scumtell ever

What shit happens every game?

Scumhunting? You might want to play a different game then ...

For what it's worth, I think that rvs is generally to be ignored but I have definitely seen chatty scum openers and called them in the past. In my limited experience it comes mostly from newbie scum though, those who haven't played scum much or ever and for whom the concept of having to open a game as scum leads to nervous chatter.

tunneling.
stop being a smartass

[Clemency]

"rvs is generally to be ignored"
yet you're so sure about it you're willing to put me to l-2

[bji]

Sash -- is this how you would expect a scummy Clemency to react? What about a townie Clemency?

yet you're so sure about it you're willing to put me to l-2

L-2 this early in the game is meaningless, no one is going to hammer you at this point. I pointed it out just so that no one makes the accidental mistake of hammering because that can happen when people are not vote counting carefully.