A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Vecna]

I still do not understand the purpose of claiming our votes during paranoia. Could someone explain this theory?

Itll be explained, but wheme should claim his vote first (even though it likely was Mastina, given that he was calling for her death before it was activated)

[jjh927]

Jingle - V
Adalbert Steiner
Vecna - V
Mastina - V
Gamma Emerald - FB

Nicorobin - V
The MEME Men - V
Nero Cain - NSG
Porkens - V?
Creature - M
Firebringer - M
Invisibility - NR
Aristophanes - M
Whemestar -
Northsidegal - V
jjh927 - V
Lady Angel - V

Okay, so the reason this is important, is because as people flip we can put things together.

Varsoon - (10) Jingle, Vecna,

Mastina,

NicoRobin, Meme Men, Porkens, NSG, JJ, Lady Angel,

Chickadee

Mastina - (4) Creature, Firebringer, Aristophanes,

Varsoon

Nico - (1) Vizzy
NSG - (1) Nero
Firebringer - (1) Gamma Emerald
Didn't vote- Adalbert Steiner, Skygazer

5 Scum, none of which would have voted for Varsoon. All of which had the opportunity to vote anonymously, and thus would have chosen whoever was most likely to be a viable mislynch. If mastina is town, that's mastina. That means, at most, the Varsoon wagon can have had 3 people claiming to be on it as scum, mathematically. Additionally, people who weren't voting Varsoon, or who were voting mastina, etc. can be asked to justify their votes.

You may have noted that Chick is presumed to be on the Varsoon wagon. That's because that is the possibility that gives scum the least opportunity to manipulate the information later.

Skygazer and Adalbert on the other hand were both pending replacement, so neither could have voted.

That's a really good angle and honestly I'm surprised I didn't see it, but that said I was anticipating the entirety of the game saying they voted Varsoon. Let's comment on this having shifted those green tags to only include Mastina- on the basis that Mastina would not self vote, throwing in Varsoon's inevitable Mastina vote, and correcting your whole mistake with Gamma Emerald and Firebringer.

Assuming 5 scum including Varsoon, so 4 unknown scum. If all 4 of them are claiming to be on the Varsoon wagon there, then them being on the Mastina wagon instead would have lynched Mastina.
Similarly, if 3 scum claim to be on the Varsoon wagon and 1 on some random other unimportant wagon, then Mastina could have also been lynched.

[Adelbert Steiner]

There could also be 6 scum. According to the rules.

[jjh927]

5 scum is the more conservative estimate in this case

If there are 6 scum, this gets even better

[jjh927]

I guess the potential for 3p wildcards this a bit but

While I am making some assumptions here, there's got to be at least 1 scum in Creature, Firebringer, Aristophanes

[Vecna]

The real takeaway is that:
{Creature, Firebringer, Aristophanes, Vizzy, Nero, Gamma Emerald, Whemestar} contains at least 2 scum
{Jingle, JJH, NicoRobin, Meme Men, Porkens, NSG, Lady Angel} contains at most 2 scum

Granted that Mastina is town and Wheme voted for Mastina

[Vecna]

The real question is about the double voters im guessing. Ive forgotten who they are at this point, but there were some people doing that nonsense I believe?

[Vecna]

Meme Men, could both the Sora and Shiro head vote during the paranoia thing? Or was it a singular vote?

[jjh927]

I think Varsoon said that double voters and shit would work, but based on the PM I think that was a lie

[jjh927]

Actually looking at it again I guess it could make sense but I don't really like how RC has phrased it in the case where they do

[jjh927]

Yo meme men, did you get to vote twice

[WhemeStar]

I WILL READ THIS

[THE MEME MEN]

We submitted both Shiro and Sora as voting for Varsoon and I have no reason to think our double vote did not work during Paranoia.

@Nero,
I said the evening of the 9th:

Nico maybe 3rd party?

We want scum first tho

3/3 Scum: randomidget, NSG, Titus,

2/5 Scum: invisibility, Nosferatu, Firebringer, Gamma, Nero Cain

3rd Party: NicoRobin

This was my first impression of the game upon replacing in, ignoring gladiates and other mechanical shit that wasn't confirmed

In response, on the morning of the 10th, LH discussed my top three reads:
1 - He agreed on Titus and felt like the excuses she'd made were invalid. He also disliked her tunnel.

2 - He slightly agreed on NSG being scummy but had some doubts about her being a top scum candidate.

3 - He felt null on randomidget and identified some posts in his iso that made him unenthusiastic about that wagon

Since Titus was our strongest overlapping scumread, my response was to vote Titus.

-RH

[jjh927]

Okay yeah pretty sure RC would have been like "No you can only vote once" if you could in fact only vote once so double voting was in play

which makes it more likely that you are town as you would have swayed it harder tbh

but at the same time it makes it harder to make deductions

[mastina]

Hey, right now I have no internet. Am phoneposting. Even if I did tho, I'm sick.

"What's new? You've said that for 3 months."

Well, yes, but I forgot to mention last time, we know what that is. Vitamin B12 deficiency. Was gonna tell you how I was doing. Short version, multivitamin isn't working well, but isn't entirely worthless.

But.
I am sick, sick.
As in, "this feels like a bacterial infection", sick.
Bad coughing, sore throat, Just. Gunk in my chest.

So between no internet and an emergency doctor visit, won't be posting today.

[THE MEME MEN]

off topic: I am deeply sorry that you are this sick for 3 months. I have winter eczema and this time around, it has flared up again....though it's gotten much more manageable over the years. Hope your doctor visit goes well.

-LH

[Invisibility]

@mod r u having fun modding

are u having fun vizzy?

this is important as to my read on u vizzy

i is

[Creature]

Oh man

Nothing new happens?

[Creature]

Did Wheme answer who he voted?

[RadiantCowbells]

mm

i can't respond to that question @vizzy

[Firebringer]

Let’s pretend I did something alignment indicative

[Vecna]

We dont need to pretend that youre exhibiting scummy behaviour doggo

[Firebringer]

Gr8
Keep it up, ur a good actor

[Porkens]

Let’s lynch the flashing ducknow

[RadiantCowbells]

lets get us one of those