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VOTE COUNT 2.5

Mewtaph (4)

- Gamma Emerald, DVa, Almost50, Kokichi Oma

OkaPoka (2)

- DrDolittle, Mewtaph

DVa (1)

- Nako

Sephiroth (1)

- OkaPoka

Not Voting (3)

- PenguinPower, Sephiroth, Joey_

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-24 22:00:00)

Mod Notes:

- nako is v/la until saturday

[DrDolittle]

This might actually be very close to auto-win on mass-claim

if you think the setup design is so crappy that after 2 town deaths its still an auto win you are delirious

[OkaPoka]

DDL? How do you know that BEF was a vig shot?

[DrDolittle]

fair enough but that implies you know it was a vig shot on BEF?

Nope just a guess - but it makes more sense than scum shooting BEF

[OkaPoka]

No, don't back pedal on this. Your statement lacked qualifiers and you seemed pretty sure of it.

How do you know?

[DVa]

Yeah something can't be right, there can't be 6 TPRs in a 13p game, even with scum roleblocker

unless some of them are heavily gated?

[OkaPoka]

Talking in scum chat to get somebody to pull you out of your scumslip?

[DrDolittle]

No, don't back pedal on this. Your statement lacked qualifiers and you seemed pretty sure of it.

How do you know?

Are you saying that I have to add "I think" to every statement? If I say Oka is scum, now I'm a cop that knows for sure you are scum?

It's literally a hypothesis, one that has been echoed throughout today

[OkaPoka]

The basis of your scumread on me implies that based on no evidence at all, kill on BEF was vig shot.

Then you claim my motivation of hypoclaiming is specifically because I want to out protectives for masonry, when the purpose of hypoclaiming is mainly to get investigative role hypo-claims. There'd be no reason for protectives to hypoclaim.

Your hypothesis requires several leaps in logic
1) BEF was a vig shot based on __
2) Scum!me shot masonry
3) Masonry was saved
4) I'm willing to sacrifice my position to start hypoclaiming that has no guarantee of working
5) Everyone is willing to cooperate with hypoclaiming
6) town protectives will hypoclaim their town protections, rather than just investigatives

[OkaPoka]

and based on these several leaps in logic, I am a solid lynch.

I think you know something that we don't.

[DrDolittle]

^ yeah all these seem extremely likely and makes a lot of sense. Thanks for writing it out explicitly.

[Gamma Emerald]

fair enough but that implies you know it was a vig shot on BEF?

Ew what? This looks like you trying to Jedi mind trick DrDolittle’s argument into one that makes him look bad

[DrDolittle]

when the purpose of hypoclaiming is mainly to get investigative role hypo-claims

Here's the key. You are not investigative, yet you are down and jiggy with hypoclaim. Why? A50 said as much.

[OkaPoka]

Because having hypoclaims is nice in case that an investigative role gets shot without outting info?

[DrDolittle]

its also nice as scum to bait out information

[Gamma Emerald]

Like how does that imply KNOWLEDGE of such a thing? It implicitly states that he thinks that the case, but he didn’t say you were for sure hypoclaiming to fish out the role that stopped your kill. He just stated that was his theory.
VOTE: OkaPoka

[OkaPoka]

its also nice as scum to bait out information

which is why VTs are supposed to give good covers and not vote their supposed innos, ie I'm not voting mew.

[Mewtaph]

its also nice as scum to bait out information

Especially in a closed setup ^^

[OkaPoka]

Like how does that imply KNOWLEDGE of such a thing? It implicitly states that he thinks that the case, but he didn’t say you were for sure hypoclaiming to fish out the role that stopped your kill. He just stated that was his theory.
VOTE: OkaPoka

can you link me where he says that before i make my post about me saying that the implying thing

[DrDolittle]

Oka you're flailing.

[DrDolittle]

mb I think you're flailing.

[Gamma Emerald]

So Oka started a hypoclaim I think to try to bait out night information, since as scum he has more to work with.

Note the words “I think”
I wasn’t even sure my proof existed but BOOM.

[OkaPoka]

lmao i guess i did

VOTE: gamma

[OkaPoka]

he did*

[OkaPoka]

anyways case on ddl could be typed but alternatively you could go to the DDU game, go to page 2 of katyusha's iso, ctrl+f "stating" and see katy's case on me about stating motivations and creating narratives vs genuine scumhunting

gamma is just a player who
has no fire to their spirit. if ur going to vote me and call me out for my bullshit then you need to be a little more combative than that