A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[NicoRobin]

Why does Firebringer still think I am incompetent when I have proven time and time again I can play well?

[jjh927]

Competency requires consistency

[Creature]

VOTE: Creature

I seem to remember that when Creature does not post, he is mafia. He is not posting. Thus, I believe this is a good vote

Nice meme

[Creature]

I thunk mastina fuels Wheme then we lynch mastina

[Creature]

*duels

[jjh927]

You think wrong

[WhemeStar]

I read everything

I don’t get the claiming votes theory but I can claim mine if you want

So you read everything..........but then you missed all of these?

Spoiler:

Kinda annoying Wheme did not confirm who he voted for last night.

WHEMESTAR, WHOM DID YOU VOTE FOR LAST DAY DURING VARSOON's ABILITY?

I still do not understand the purpose of claiming our votes during paranoia. Could someone explain this theory?

Itll be explained, but wheme should claim his vote first (even though it likely was Mastina, given that he was calling for her death before it was activated)

Jingle - V
Adalbert Steiner
Vecna - V
Mastina - V
Gamma Emerald - FB

Nicorobin - V
The MEME Men - V
Nero Cain - NSG
Porkens - V?
Creature - M
Firebringer - M
Invisibility - NR
Aristophanes - M
Whemestar -
Northsidegal - V
jjh927 - V
Lady Angel - V

Okay, so the reason this is important, is because as people flip we can put things together.

Varsoon - (10)

Jingle, Vecna, Mastina,

NicoRobin, Meme Men, Porkens, NSG, JJ, Lady Angel,

Chickadee

Mastina - (3) Creature, Firebringer, Aristophanes
Nico - (1) Vizzy
NSG - (1) Nero
Gamma - (1) FB
Didn't vote- Adalbert Steiner, Skygazer

5 Scum, none of which would have voted for Varsoon. All of which had the opportunity to vote anonymously, and thus would have chosen whoever was most likely to be a viable mislynch. If mastina is town, that's mastina. That means, at most, the Varsoon wagon can have had 3 people claiming to be on it as scum, mathematically. Additionally, people who weren't voting Varsoon, or who were voting mastina, etc. can be asked to justify their votes.

You may have noted that Chick is presumed to be on the Varsoon wagon. That's because that is the possibility that gives scum the least opportunity to manipulate the information later.

Skygazer and Adalbert on the other hand were both pending replacement, so neither could have voted.

Who did you vote yesterday.

No, not role claims.

Claims of who you voted for in paranoia.

Jingle - V
Adalbert Steiner
Vecna - V
Mastina - V
Gamma Emerald - FB

Nicorobin - V
The MEME Men - V
Nero Cain - NSG
Porkens - V?
Creature - M
Firebringer - M
Invisibility - NR
Aristophanes - M
Whemestar -
Northsidegal - V
jjh927 - V
Lady Angel -

This is roughly reads order.

Dead Men What Can't Tell Tales:

Varsoon
Chick
Skygazer

I need confirmation from Porkens and claims from Wheme and LA before I can explain why this is useful.

And I stopped after finding these, but there are many more.

ok then

VOTE: Whemestar

And those posts relate to me not understanding the theory how???

[Creature]

You think wrong

So mastina sgould duel another town?

[Creature]

If mastina duels another toqn I'll just powerlynch her and period.

[jjh927]

No I mean your thinking is wrong and it's concerning

[jjh927]

You assume Mastina's gladiate will succeed on Wheme but think she should gladiate Wheme

[Creature]

Huh I don't

We can still lynch mastina even if her duel fails

[jjh927]

why the fuck would we do that

[jjh927]

I mean I don't want to see her lynched anyway but I feel like if the gladiate fails then, with the exception of the scenario where mastina lied about the trigger for the gladiate, it's a guaranteed guilty

[NicoRobin]

Competency requires consistency

It was consistent. >.>

[NicoRobin]

And here is the idea. Nobody target me or mastina tonight, cos I know someone has been protecting her from my tracker. If my results aren't tampered with in any way and I track her to a kill, then we'll know she is scum.

[NicoRobin]

This is how I know my results have been tampered with, ftr

You could always have done your whole rolecop thing and I'd have 100% given it you even though you're scum because I've already fullclaimed but w/e

Also lies. I received nothing in my inbox despite targeting you.

Oh you're claiming your action failed completely here?

Actually, it didn't. The mod was just late in giving me the info. :/

Then how come I haven't been sent anything?

Subtext, jj. I got rolecopped and gave consent.

I even subtly asked NR not to share her results with the thread, because there is some, if slight, utility in keeping the specifics of my role hidden from the thread at large. If/when I flip that should make more sense. The idea that rolecopping me was unintentional and she meant to rolecop you actually strengthens my townread there.

So whoever keeps doing that, don't. Protecting mastina every night is counterproductive and makes us easier to fool. I know that most of you townread her, but that's no excuse to actively prevent me from finding out the damn truth. >.>

[THE MEME MEN]

@RC: When it is convenient could you respond to my PM? TIA

he didn’t reply to mine either. It’s been so long ago though, I don’t even recall what I pmed him about

I don't think I've ever been in a game that tested my patience so much as this one has, and still is.

-LH

[THE MEME MEN]

So whoever keeps doing that, don't. Protecting mastina every night is counterproductive and makes us easier to fool. I know that most of you townread her, but that's no excuse to actively prevent me from finding out the damn truth. >.>

"most" people townread her? Am I following the same thread here? Or am I in an alternate reality caused by a djinn or an angel from Supernatural?

If someone has been blocking her for some reason , which is affecting your track result, then why don't you just track someone else?

And what if someone else other than mastina has been doing the killing, have you considered that ? Then your track would just get "no movement."

-LH

[RadiantCowbells]

[Jingle]

@RC: When it is convenient could you respond to my PM? TIA

he didn’t reply to mine either. It’s been so long ago though, I don’t even recall what I pmed him about

I don't think I've ever been in a game that tested my patience so much as this one has, and still is.

-LH

Considering mine contains: “I think I might need to be force replaced for game integrity, could you look into that”
I’m pretty focused on it.

[RadiantCowbells]

Meme men please check your PMs because I was under the impression your issue was resolved.
Jingle is being dealt with.

[Jingle]

If I suddenly disappear from the face of the earth, you can all assume that RC had me assassinated.

[NicoRobin]

So whoever keeps doing that, don't. Protecting mastina every night is counterproductive and makes us easier to fool. I know that most of you townread her, but that's no excuse to actively prevent me from finding out the damn truth. >.>

"most" people townread her? Am I following the same thread here? Or am I in an alternate reality caused by a djinn or an angel from Supernatural?

If someone has been blocking her for some reason , which is affecting your track result, then why don't you just track someone else?

And what if someone else other than mastina has been doing the killing, have you considered that ? Then your track would just get "no movement."

-LH

We can find out one way or another if whoever is preventing my results from being accurate/checking the intended target stops doing so.

Also, let me get this straight: you will keep protecting mastina even if she is scum, am I right?

If so, then get your heads out of the sand.

[Jingle]

If you get a damning result on mastina I will 100% agree that the only lynches on the table are you and mastina.

I'm pretty sure that mastina is town from the way Varsoon's self destruction played out.

And those posts relate to me not understanding the theory how???

Basically the theory boils down to: the combination of those claims and future flips will vastly narrow the PoE pool of people who could be scum in later portions of the game. It's actually not super useful premastina flip, but presumably by the end of the game we will have enough information to make it VERY useful.
Additionally, people who claim to have voted people other than the people they were suspecting are interesting and worthy of scrutiny, because there is no town reason to lie but there is a HUGE scum reason to lie. (Namely, that whole narrowing the PoE pool).

So yes. You do need to claim who you voted for during paranoia. And if you are town, you will be truthful about it.