In post 1833, OkaPoka wrote:i need gamma to tell me if A50 v Sephiroth was a normal emotional reaction from a50 because if AP is truly like a persona account then i know nothing about A50
I don’t see anything abnormal about how A50 responded
And yeah, AP and A50 do have different styles
We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
In post 1849, DrDolittle wrote:a couple of things.
1) I'm giving a50 benefit of the doubt. there's no sense in even discussing lynching a claimed town investigative role that is not counterclaimed.
2) Oka:"We have PP wagon hit L1, then A50 gives intent to hammer to force out a claim (never follows through as ->" a50 never intended to vote. the hammer threat was empty. plus you should recall that only 2/3 of the votes on PP at that time were "serious votes". what you are pushing in your scenario is misleading.
ok lets argue semantics because you want to
a50's intent wasn't empty at first, he only revealed his true motivations later, but the point is that there was a moment in which he gave intent with the full weight of it and A50 had no reason to reveal his motivations until Seph dragged it out of him. The threat of hammer was there, PP seemed like a very possible lynch at that moment still.
therefore by arguing that my scenario is misleading, is misleading to everyone else
ok so which 1/3 of the votes in your mind weren't serious votes?
lets go through each person
-> kokichi literally starter of the wagon and pusher of it so
-> dva, makes a post after a50 gives intent to hammer and doesn't immediately unvote, so pretty serious then, no? implication of inaction makes it so that she is willing to let this proceed, probs more but lazy
->gamma in post
In post 1080, Gamma Emerald wrote:Speed and counterwagon
Though the composition actually looks alright
Idk what deadline has to do with it
I'm not so sure now. My top 2 scum reads are on my 3rd scum read's wagon. Maybe they are trying to help PP.
I don't know, but maybe a little L-1 can push us along further.
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@Gamma: Just vote Tchill. Trust me.
I’d rather vote PP rn
declares that he prefers a PP wagon, so pretty serious here
-> sephiroth gets grilled for his hardline position on PP by a50, also doesn't unvote immediately, requires him to enter a discussion with A50 before changing off. Pretty serious. You can read for yourself
-> tchill arguably can be not serious vote, but the fact of the matter is that he is willing to lynch anyone makes him still an equal vote on PP, he isn't going to leave the wagon unless it loses momentum thus the L1 pressure is all the same
-> BEF has inaction thing + he outright states that he does it for preservation of himself, he isn't going to leave the PP wagon. threat still exists
PP wagon is suspcious because if he is green, its a ridicolously easy lynch to sell and scum who pushes it or join the wagon has good cover as
1) Mason kokichi is pushing it
2) Tchill and BEF both joined for crappy and opportunistic reasons, but were intent on seeing the lynch through
thus only explanation in my mind is that either:
PP town, scum tapped their resources pretty heavily already meaning high scum concentration in Gamma, Seph, Dva, with wildcards being A50/nako so they are worried about a huge incrimination
PP scum, scum see a better alternative lynch that is sellable in tchill/bef
or im wrong
but i think my scenarios are most reasonable explanations for PP, thus i want a PP flip.
I don't really want the game state to stall but I can also see how I could be destroying town unity and possibly letting at least 1 lurker scum pass through without much notice. So I'm going to be relatively quieter for a bit.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 1855, Mewtaph wrote:I don't really want the game state to stall but I can also see how I could be destroying town unity and possibly letting at least 1 lurker scum pass through without much notice. So I'm going to be relatively quieter for a bit.
This actually feels dissonant. Concerned about lurker scum, but going to lurk himself?
We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
Once upon not so long ago there was this Town that couldn't agree to have a 3 player wagon intact long enough for a 4th person to join it. This Town lost the game. The End.
In post 1860, Almost50 wrote:Once upon not so long ago there was this Town that couldn't agree to have a 3 player wagon intact long enough for a 4th person to join it. This Town lost the game. The End.
Vote Oka then
We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
Idk what you’re getting at with your associatives because you drill in scenario a but then throw in scenario b and just throw your hands in the air and say “everyone else figure this out”.
We're falling through space, you and me, clinging to the skin of this tiny little world, and if we let go...That's who I am.
How do you expect to find the culprit when you're all worried about each other's feelings? If you're planning to expose a liar, then you have to corner them psychologically.
In post 1872, OkaPoka wrote:I guess that's possible and opens some other doors, but do you think that your explanation is more likely than my explanation(s)?
I don't think it is any more or less likely. But, if it was the scenario, the worst case is that my lynch goes through and they still get a mislynch.
I'd think worst case scenario there would be your wagon would fail, town would find a new wagon on real scum if your town here.
Which is why I don't think your scenario is as likely because its less optimal to do as scum and its easier and better just to push you through unless there was some reason stopping them ie they are on the wagon and felt as if they couldn't actually pull it off
I think the only way your scenario ends up working is if we have 3 Deep scum that have no chance of getting lynched yesterday.
