A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[northsidegal]

NSG is scum b/c she had Titus as dead null and then randomly votes Varsoon without explaining why or attempting to get a wagon on him. What does scum do when they are getting scum read? Vote their buddy. This also makes me think that the whole Varsoon thing was a planned bus all along.

Now sheep me Pork.

no? that's not really true.

thoughts on varsoon being scum, creature?

not sure if aristophanes is still scum honestly, but i still think varsoon is scum. i thought the same thing spectating that fakegod game that just finished and i was right there (if anyone cares).

VOTE: varsoon

hey jjh, what do you think of varsoon?

Not honestly sure. I'm willing to consider him after NicoRobin but I'm kinda leaning town and I think I need a scumflip before I can really place him

could you explain why you're leaning town? i really don't think there's a lot of substance in his ISO and it reminds me of his iso in this game that just finished

But awesome case full of great points about me, I guess. It's at least more than cowtowing to Mastina and/or NicoRobin's play, so even though it's literally wrong, I'm still for it.

never claimed to have a "case" against you

i realized varsoon was scum here after i realized that he was scum in fakegod's game and that he was playing pretty similarly and not like i knew his towngame to be (from taz mafia, an ongoing game at that point).

[Jingle]

Also, to everyone who townreads mastina: I want you to write that you will apologize in public for making us lose on purpose in your next post.

I don't want to make a sig bet, because I can't remember if those are allowed. But I'll apologize somehow if my mastina ends up endgaming town despite the fact that I've literally been advocating she die before endgame since replaced in.

Now that creature pretty much confirmed his own role, my paranoia is no longer there because he literally CAN'T have done the thing I thought he did.

VOTE: Lady Angel

[Jingle]

Creature, any reason you didn't investigate the prominent player who had flavor claimed N1?

[Vecna]

how do you know he hasnt?

[Jingle]

Because the guilty on mastina didn't come until D4?

[Creature]

I wasn't the one choosing who to investigate N1 and I thought Nico would rolecop mastina N2 so I went elsewhere

[Jingle]

That satisfies that doubt, I suppose.

[jjh927]

I thought based on an earlier post that creature's slot was the target of Vaxkiller's delaying thing anyway

[jjh927]

Wait, the mod PMed me just now my N1 results.

The gathering had started. Fantasy heroes, abstract concepts, and larger than life figures from the real world were all gathering in anticipation. It was time for another glorious showdown where one side would reach glorious victory and another side would lose horribly, because all great stories have winners and losers. They gathered in anticipation of the moment where everything was promised to begin, at 11:35:24 on the 15th of August, 2018. All of them had arrived in time for the event and the atmosphere grew tense as they counted the minutes and the seconds down then...

...nothing. It didn't start.

The contestants looked around, not sure what to do. A few wandered off. Most stayed, but the trust was no longer there. The promise had been broken.

Vaxkiller has died! He was

8/15/18 11:35:24, A Broken Promise

. You are a Post Restricted Delayer.

Spoiler: Role PM

Yeah I will totally start this game at this time, right guys?

Welcome, Vaxkiller. You are

8/15/18 11:35:24, A Broken Promise

. You are a Post Restricted Delayer.

Breaker of Promises (Post Restriction): You cannot claim your night action accurately before you make it, nor can you assent to performing a leashed action. If you agree to any action you must break said agreement. You may claim this fact. If based on my subjective opinion you have failed this clause your action will be cancelled (or if you agreed to not act, randomized.)
Delayed Game (Delayer): Each night you may target a player and cause any actions they perform that night or the following day to resolve two phases later (Night 2 actions delayed to Night 2, Day 4 to Day 5.)

You win when the Mafia have been removed and at least one Townie is still alive.

Day 2 has begun!

[Creature]

5045 was a joke

[jjh927]

Did you ask RC if the stuff after the comma counts?

[Jingle]

HurtCount 4.4.2 (Because I screwed the pooch on 4.4 apparently):

Ineligible Players:

Adalbert: (0)
Mastina: (4) Firebringer, Creature, Meme Men, Aristophanes

Eligible Players

Nicorobin: (6) Invisibility, JJH, Meme Men, Jingle, Lady Angel,

jjh

, Vecna

Firebringer

: (4) Vecna, Lady Angel, Mastina, Meme Men,
Whemestar: (4) Meme Men, Vecna, Creature, Jingle
Aristophanes: (3) NSG, Meme Men, jjh
jjh927: (3) Porkens, Meme Men, Shoshin
Creature: (3) Meme Men, Vecna, Adalbert Steiner
Nero Cain: (2) Meme Men, Vecna,
Northsidegal: (2) Nero Cain, Meme Men
Gamma Emerald: (2) Meme Men, Vecna
Shoshin: (2) Meme Men, Jingle
Lady Angel: (2) Meme Men, Jingle
Jingle: (1) Meme Men
Vecna: (1) Meme Men
The MEME Men: (1) Meme Men
Porkens: (1) Meme Men

Invisibility

: (1) Meme Men

With 18 alive, 10 is the proposed Gladiate Threshhold. If you want to reduce or increase the threshold, please indicate as such.

Hopefully this is accurate now. I'm not going to backcheck, though.

[Jingle]

PSA:

Whemestar, claim who you voted for during Varsoonlock. That is all.

[jjh927]

I'm on NicoRobin twice now - not that that does not accurately convey the level of confidence with which I believe she is scum

[Jingle]

Dammit. I'll fix it in the next one.

[Shoshin]

NSG's town.

[Shoshin]

I don't really overtly scumread anyone except NicoRobin, although Firebringer's a bit up there that might just be because of his adamance to lynch Mastina.

Can you talk to me about this Fire read? You think he's scum because he wants to lynch Mastina?

[Jingle]

Jingle
Adalbert Steiner
Vecna
Mastina

The MEME Men
Nero Cain
Nicorobin
Porkens
Creature
Firebringer
jjh927
Invisibility
Aristophanes
Northsidegal
Shoshin
Whemestar
Lady Angel

Vizzy still null line.

[Lady Angel]

I don't really overtly scumread anyone except NicoRobin, although Firebringer's a bit up there that might just be because of his adamance to lynch Mastina.

Can you talk to me about this Fire read? You think he's scum because he wants to lynch Mastina?

If you were to read the page or so leading up to Varsoon's lynch, it was essentially a page-long genuine rant about Mastina's role that ended with his ability triggering. This isn't Alignment-indicative in and of itself, but Varsoon flipped scum - so either he should win an oscar or he and Mastina don't share an alignment. Following that, Chickadee, one of the people Mastina gladiated and had it trigger on, flipped town. If Mastina is either Loyal or Disloyal (which, for the record, Creature may have just confirmed), that essentially outright confirms her role and Firebringer's still going at her. I don't think that's entirely AI, but given what Varsoon just did it seems pretty apparent that Mastina is not scum and Firebringer constantly trying to vote there is anti-wincon as town or just outright playing for scum. Same with Nico, whose entire argument can more or less be summed up as "Mastina is scum because I am right and I am right because I say so" but everything else here applies.

Want to talk, Jingle?

[Jingle]

Sure.

Also, fire made no secret of the fact he thought mastina was town.

[Jingle]

Presumably this is the part where you ask whatever questions you have that you want to talk about.

[Lady Angel]

What made you vote me? From my point of view, it seemed pretty out of the blue although you do scumread me.

[Jingle]

A change in reads on Creature.

Apparently he wasn't scumclaiming, therefore I'm moving back to my next highest scumread.

[Jingle]

Or are you asking me to scumcase you?

[Lady Angel]

I'd like to see specifically what I did to make you think that way, if I may.