[Game Over] Newbie 1900 - Robocalypse

[Lamees]

• volxen (L-2)

  : Auro, Flavor Leaf, lionheart1492
  

  YurikoJasmine (L-3)

  : YurikoJasmine, Not_Mafia
  

  Auro (L-4)

  : volxen
  

  Lamees (L-4)

  : Ariane
  

  Not_Mafia (L-4)

  : Lamees
  

  snowbeast

VOTE: not_mafia

[Auro]

VOTE: not_mafia

Since you're out of RVS, why? Policy vote?

[Lamees]

Don't like his iso

[Auro]

Read his ISOs from other games. Tell me the difference.
Else that's a policy lynch you're advocating.

[Ariane]

whoa this flavour text is cool

sup, I'll see you all later tonight

[Ariane]

UNVOTE: til I read properly

[Flavor Leaf]

fwiw mudslinging isn't the best word for my opinion on volx but it's the one I used bc it's close enough and I explained it more in depth in the original post. Fearmongering is a better word if you're struggling to understand my argument.

this came across incredibly townie to me. This was a realization of looking at a past thing, realizing he could have explained better, and hoping to clarify.

town read.

[Ariane]

slow game

FL what's your plan in terms of finding scum? how do you plan to dig them up?

[Ariane]

hey lam! (and auro/volx!)

not_mafia? seems legit

VOTE: randomaccess

Why mention one player in your RVS post but then RV someone else completely? Why did you choose random to vote?

[Ariane]

I'm not psychic - yet. Will hold my vote for a day until I understand this game a bit more

by this do you mean you're not gonna vote for the whole day...? How do you expect the day to go then?

[lionheart1492]

Ari isn't really contributing anything to the game with any of those posts. "why did you vote randomly in RVS" sounds like trolling.

[Ariane]

Nah it's a legit question a) we're hardly out of RVS anyway, b) I can imagine scum feeling weird about voting /not voting a partner, sure it might not be the best question in the world but I was curious when I read it so

The one to snowbeast it should be obvious why I'm asking

The one to FL is mostly cos they seem very passive and I'm curious as to whether this will continue

[Ariane]

in my experience even RVS votes have at least done kind of (usually silly) justification, so I'm curious as to why lam decided not to do that

[Ariane]

hmmm uncertain about volx, he's talking more about previous games than the one we're actually in

lion seems town

[Not_Mafia]

RVS is the best part of any mafia game: fact

[lionheart1492]

in my experience even RVS votes have at least done kind of (usually silly) justification, so I'm curious as to why lam decided not to do that

But it's not at all alignment indicative. I just find it incredibly pointless as a line of questioning because even if the person is scum there's nothing there to push them on.

Also, I would rather we didn't all start outing D1 townreads with no guarantee of protection because it makes mafia kills too easy. If someone is getting votes and you need to stop them getting wagoned because you think they're town it's one thing but just listing a townread on me (0 votes) accomplishes nothing rn.

[Ariane]

that last part seems weird to me, I find it incredibly helpful to see other people's reads be they scum or town

if nothing else it encourages accountability and makes it harder for scum as it's more difficult for them to seem town, because they have to justify reads changing as well as who they're voting in the first place, both of which are much easier for town to do

Also, it means that eg my town read on you can be pushed at by other players and my mind might be changed or the read might be further cemented. you say I shouldn't bring it up unless I need to stop someone getting wagoned, but that misses the point that my reads aren't 100% or anything. besides, catching scum by process of elimination is legit. I don't see anything wrong with being open (also, how does it make mafia kills easier?? not following that)

[Ariane]

in my experience even RVS votes have at least done kind of (usually silly) justification, so I'm curious as to why lam decided not to do that

But it's not at all alignment indicative. I just find it incredibly pointless as a line of questioning because even if the person is scum there's nothing there to push them on.

And whether or not the vote is at all AI isn't the only point, it's whether or not scum/town might respond differently to being asked about an RVS vote, which I think they might

[Lamees]

hey lam! (and auro/volx!)

not_mafia? seems legit

VOTE: randomaccess

Why mention one player in your RVS post but then RV someone else completely? Why did you choose random to vote?

Hey ariane.

It was a joke about how I find a name like not_mafia to be a player that isn't mafia because it's in the name. So I random voted randomaccess since the word random is in the name it was a suitable random vote.

[Flavor Leaf]

slow game

FL what's your plan in terms of finding scum? how do you plan to dig them up?

I'll pounce when I find something scummy. And right now, I'm trying to gather town reads so I can potentially try and look into some sort of POE (process of elimination) read to go off of.

There isn't really much to go off of right now. We're at a spot in the game where everyone's pretty passive, not giving others really a reason to pounce on. Eventually someone will do something to change it, and it's gonna change the landscape of the game.

Your posting this page has been townie because it seems like youre trying to solve the game, but realize we really have nothing to go off of.

[lionheart1492]

By "making mafia kills easier" I'm referring to their decision, targetting the hardest people to lynch is an easy call for mafia. I'm not really here to argue the validity of posting early townreads so I won't go further into that.

[Auro]

Read his ISOs from other games. Tell me the difference.
Else that's a policy lynch you're advocating.

Lamees, I'd like you to clarify on this.

[Auro]

fwiw mudslinging isn't the best word for my opinion on volx but it's the one I used bc it's close enough and I explained it more in depth in the original post. Fearmongering is a better word if you're struggling to understand my argument.

this came across incredibly townie to me. This was a realization of looking at a past thing, realizing he could have explained better, and hoping to clarify.

town read.

This was a response to me saying "Compliment more than mudslinging" and not a standalone comment.

What makes engaged clarification incredibly townie?

[Flavor Leaf]

He realized that he worded it in a way that could have been worded better and actively tried clearing it up for people.
I think that’s townie. Sure, scum can do that, but they’d do that trying to mimic a town mindset. He could be attempting to mimic it, but the act in itself is townie.

[Auro]

By "making mafia kills easier" I'm referring to their decision, targetting the hardest people to lynch is an easy call for mafia. I'm not really here to argue the validity of posting early townreads so I won't go further into that.

On the flip side, not forming consensus townreads makes more people east to get mislynched, benefitting scum.

It's a fine trade-off.