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VOTE COUNT 2.14

DrDolittle (3)

- Nako, Kokichi Oma, PenguinPower

PenguinPower (3)

- Gamma Emerald, OkaPoka, Almost50

OkaPoka (2)

- Sephiroth, DrDolittle

Not Voting (3)

- ofrhz, Mewtaph, DVa

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-11-24 22:00:00)

Mod Notes:

[Kokichi Oma]

Hmm

[ofrhz]

@DVa @offrhz where are you guys going to put your votes?

VOTE: DDL

I’d also be willing to vote Kokichi

[Sephiroth]

If DDL is a town jk could that mean that he blocked the scum NK in A50? I mean if I'm A50 and scum I would definitely want to get an alibi if I saw that my kill didn't go through and claim gs prematurely as he does here

[DrDolittle]

Im here.

[DrDolittle]

DDL, why did you want Mew to confirm if he was ascetic?

because i have mew as a town read and why he had an investigative null, and I think him holding this information doesn't make any sense.

[DrDolittle]

I think A50 is pretty much confirmed GS at this point, barring a scenario of DDL + A50 scumteam which is unlikely and very gusty because double incriminating yourself as scum right now is way too risky.

The way I see the DDL slot is it will resolve itself pretty much in 1 ~ 2 days. Maybe he is lying, but I don't see much we can gain from flipping DDL right now because a town flip gets us nowhere, so we have to be extremely sure of scum DDL.

yup. A50 can check me tonight for guns. (If A50 gets null, then that would indicate I'm scum as well)

[DrDolittle]

Well, his next likely scum on his list was you, and I don't think you were suspected in thread.

Yeah it was 50/50 gamma vs A50 block and I chose A50 in the end.

And DrD didn't crumb at all in any of his long catchup posts?

Idk, I don't get why Mew is doing weird associatives with me instead of pushing drd on his claim, but the claim does seem a bit suspect

I don't crumb. But JK claim is corroborated by my belief in A50's claim in Day 2 as well as my insistence that mew claims that he's not ascetic.

[DrDolittle]

Also why A50 over one of the masons?

this is embarassing but I thought he was scum and likely to make the kill on day end

I guess it is worth asking what about the flip made you change your read of a50 and why you wouldn't use the jk protectively... like why would you assume a50 would be the one to make the kill?

UNVOTE:

I had three scum reads. Knowing BEF is not going to make the kill, its a 50/50 on A50 vs gamma. Whereas if I target a mason for protection, it could easily be WIFOM'd, plus, scum may be interested in shooting others. Overall, my EV computation is that targetting to stop a kill might be better.

hey wait ddl why are you townreading me

im not.

VOTE: DDL

You are seriously voting a claimed TPR

[DrDolittle]

VOTE: DDL

what is it that you don't believe about my role? is it that you hypothesize im scum JK a la Nako or I'm not JK at all?

[DrDolittle]

If DDL is a town jk could that mean that he blocked the scum NK in A50?

actually this could be a reasonable hypothesis on what happened, and my JK actually unintentionally protected A50

[OkaPoka]

It's still possible that a50 can be maf gunsmith right?

Also nako I have made my reasons for voting pp. But to vote ddl I'd either need a game plan in the case he flips town or so little doubt in town jk ddl where a contingency isn't needed.

[DrDolittle]

this might be setup speculation but mafia gunsmith is way too odd.

[Gamma Emerald]

Mafia GS would mean we’d prolly have vig and one other town role with a gun

[OkaPoka]

i was just looking at another game where there was a mafia gunsmith so thats why i threw it out there

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77190

or maybe rolecop?

im operating completely under the assumption that a vig who shot BEF would have outed themselves already

[Gamma Emerald]

i was just looking at another game where there was a mafia gunsmith so thats why i threw it out there

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77190

or maybe rolecop?

im operating completely under the assumption that a vig who shot BEF would have outed themselves already

Why? And in that case why do you think scum killed widely-scumread BEF?

[OkaPoka]

Because if vig shot BEF and didn't out himself, then vig is kinda just letting ourselves dig pits of useless analysis and wifom to make the lynch.

I have no idea why scum would kill BEF, I can only assume pr hunting or wifom.

[OkaPoka]

Joey slot being willing to vote kokichi slot makes me doubt my kokichi townread now tho. Kokichi townread only exists because I trust joey slot.

Anyways we have a lot of questions that need to be resolved.

Kokichi - Joey masonry shenanigans

A50 - town invest or scum invest

DDL - town rb or scum rb

and PP alignment, whether we actually had three townies be final wagons on end of D1.

[Gamma Emerald]

Because if vig shot BEF and didn't out himself, then vig is kinda just letting ourselves dig pits of useless analysis and wifom to make the lynch.

I have no idea why scum would kill BEF, I can only assume pr hunting or wifom.

Well could you make a guess as to who would make that kind of play?

[OkaPoka]

I don't know enough about everybody's scum game here to make that guess

[Gamma Emerald]

Me neither tbh
My honest opinion? That kinda implicates A50, as he’s the one I mostl likely see suggest an out-there kill among this playerlist.

[PenguinPower]

VOTE: DDL

You are seriously voting a claimed TPR

Yeah.

[Almost50]

Guys, I'm really stuck here. I can neither confirm nor deny DrD as either alignment, but I don't think lynching a claimed JK on the day they claimed makes much sense, Not unless you're sure enough they're scum. Otherwise, give them a night to self-resolve.

[PenguinPower]

I'm not lynching me. I don't think Oka is scum.

[Almost50]

Who do you think is scum, aside from DrD?