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[Creature]

I'm having trouble reading others considering I don't do well with walls

[Creature]

I remember finding Clem and bji towny earlier

[Garmr]

I'm having trouble reading others considering I don't do well with walls

Both are voting you at the moment. So where do you think scum may lay if you town read those two?

[Sashaddin]

I'm happy this game is picking up pace again!

What I'm thinking about right now:

1. We haven't heard of the TexdoesHalo slot for the entire game
2. I like jumping on wagons but I have to have a reason to do it.
3. I don't find Creature that scummy (nor that towny either) to wagon him.
4. If Creature is town, I think he will be a great asset to town. If he's scum, we'll just get him later,

So... for those four points, I think I'm going to stick with Tex for now. I could give Creature a vote if someone can convince me so.

*Poke TexdoesHalo* bc we don't want a modkill.

[Sashaddin]

- Sashaddin feels kind of town. Seems a little too noncommittal to me, and doesn't seem to want to get involved in any contentious issues. My suspicions are based mostly on his lack of any apparent scum hunting effort. Could just be play style. He came from the same game that Clemency liked so maybe he was another player who prefers the "no confrontation, no serious pushes, just keep reading the game and making guesses" play style.

You understand my playstyle a lot it seems. If we were two cops interrogating a suspect, you'd be the one in his face asking the questions while I'd be the one standing in the corner observing and analyzing the exchange.
It served me well in my last game though. But as I am not confrontational by nature, you won't see me pick up a small detail and make a mountain out of it. I pick my battles.

I also prefer Day 2 and later, so I can try to figure out who wanted those lynches and nightkills. Easier to draw links this way. For now it's only speculation and my rational brain can't do jack with this so far.

[Irrelephant11]

I don't feel like we are likely to lynch town this game day
Bji I don't understand voting creature over reaper rn
I think creature has basically played nai, and raya was hard to read, too
I think reaper has been active lurking and actively scummy

I see your case on someone who has maybe overplayed in a scummy way and raise you a slot that *isn't playing*

[skitter30]

- I didn't like how Raya volunteered that she had already played with Skitter and Flubber (post 55) after RVS voting Skitter without having mentioned it until I asked someone (Sash, Clemency? Can't remember, and I neglected to write it down in my notes and am too lazy to go look it up) about who they had played with before. She popped in to volunteer this info.

Something about volunteering to answer a question not asked of her as an opportunity to volunteer that she had already played with those two and to make a point that she would be "starting fresh" so as to reduce interest in her association with them, doesn't sit well with me.

I will repeat that the Flubber slot ended up being a lurker, which also fits into my general gut feel that we have at most one active scum playing - and Flubber could easily be the other scum. Tex replaced in and replaced right out. The slot is very dirty.

idk the bolded feels a little reach-y to me; i'm not sure if they were ever svs together
i do agree that tex not doing anytihng (i don't think they've formally asked to rep-out) is very scum-indicative

- She town read me for my initial push on Clemency, then switched to using the same push on Clemency as a reason for a scum read on me, and then when challenged on it, just changed her mind. At every step of the way she appears to be trying to avoid confrontation/criticism much more so than actually scumhunting or holding any conviction on her previously stated point of view.

agree with this point; don't particularly agree with the point about 108
(i'm trying to minimize the amount that i'm directly quoting)

- Skitter post 221 says that Raya played a scum game with him where she did pretty much exactly what she did this game -- call a TvT argument (which she knew was TvT because she was scum) and then replace out early. How much of a coincidence can this possibly be?

(i'm a she btw)

i think that when she plays scum she has trouble finding people to push and that she tends to call tvt arguments tvt

she did replace -out early there but iirc she has a history of flaking as both alignments; i'm not sure if this particular piece of evidence is much ai; if you check the replacements thread you'll see she repped out of another game, and also outed from a game in the mini queu; the replacing-out could just be because she's busy irl or whatever; i'm not sure it actually has anything to do with this game in particular

[skitter30]

i agree with most of bji's readslist, except that

a) i don't really know how to read irrel although on balance i think he's prob townie? idk if he's out of scumrange

b) clemency i have more as nulltown than as an outright townread

c) bji i'm kinda conflicted on? i like the effort + attempt to move the game along and push his scumreads, but from how he describes how he expects scum!raya to be playing, i think he tries to approach the game as scum this way too so i'm not sure

d) i don't townread creature which is low-key worrying

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i don't really love clemency's sheeping

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Yeah the game is lurky and usually it's easier for scum to taje control by being the first to blame others

who is this talking about?

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i don't really want to talk about politics in a mafia game tbh

[Irrelephant11]

most of my towngames never leave my scumrange, imo (I have a very high view of my scum game).

why don't you townread creature?

[skitter30]

i feel largely underwhelming

[skitter30]

*underwhelmed

[skitter30]

Yeah the game is lurky and usually it's easier for scum to taje control by being the first to blame others

who is this talking about?

also i'm waiting for a response to this

[Irrelephant11]

I remember finding Clem and bji towny earlier

I can't really put my finger on why but I think maybe Creature makes this post as town more often than as scum

[skitter30]

i'm not sure who creature is talking about in the post that i quoted, but it was just after bji made a case against his slot, so it reads to me like he's responding to bji's case against raya and saying that bji is scum taking advantage of a lurk-y gamestate

i thought that was kinda incongruous with calling bji town and kinda read to me like he was trying to discredit bji's raya case

it's possible that he was talking about clemency tho? that reading doesn't make as much as sense to me; idk that's why i'm asking

[Creature]

d) i don't townread creature which is low-key worrying

or it's like too early to tell

[Creature]

who is this talking about?

I mean, as an example:

If the gamestate is lurky, scum would be quick to call one town lurky. Technically it works because then scum would be doing more stuff just by accusing someone of being lurky.

[skitter30]

are you talking about someone in particular in this game or just making a general observation (and if the latter, why mention it?)

[Creature]

I don't have someone particular in mind, and I make any post I want.

[Irrelephant11]

creature if scum is in {bji, reaper, the lurkslot} which do you pick and why

[Creature]

What lurkslot?

[Irrelephant11]

Flubbernugget

TexdoesHalo*
* denotes a prod

[Creature]

Oh right, both Reaper and Tex can go tbh

[Creature]

Just that I've been looking for townreads to make me feel more confident and I also fear Reaper and/or Tex can be lynchbait

[Creature]

i don't really want to talk about politics in a mafia game tbh

Well, I don't want to talk about politics in the us politics thread

[bji]

I don't feel like we are likely to lynch town this game day
Bji I don't understand voting creature over reaper rn
I think creature has basically played nai, and raya was hard to read, too
I think reaper has been active lurking and actively scummy

I see your case on someone who has maybe overplayed in a scummy way and raise you a slot that *isn't playing*

For two reasons:

1. Because I think my points against Raya are better than "lynch a lurker" in terms of likelihood to catch scum.
2. Because votes against Raya, and especially a lynch of Raya, will be more meaningful going forward in terms of analysis of remaining players than votes/lynch of Reaper, who is basically being targeted just because he's lurking.