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snowbeast

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[Auro]

Auro (L-3)

: volxen, Flavor Leaf

Flavor Leaf (L-3)

: Ariane, Auro

Ariane (L-4)

: YurikoJasmine

YurikoJasmine (L-4)

: Not_Mafia

snowbeast, lionheart1492, Lamees

As scum, I could easily weave and thread something together and make a hard case on someone. I can turn nothing into a 4 part saga. Town, there’s no need for me to do that, because I don’t want a mislynch.

In this game so far, scum can get away with passivity too. Activity should be NAI at this point, for anyone.

[Flavor Leaf]

As scum, I could easily weave and thread something together and make a hard case on someone. I can turn nothing into a 4 part saga. Town, there’s no need for me to do that, because I don’t want a mislynch.

In this game so far, scum can get away with passivity too. Activity should be NAI at this point, for anyone.

Sure. What was this relevant to?

[Auro]

You said that *as* scum you could hard case and push, justified your passivity as town. I mean that scum could get away with passivity and posting a lot isn't AI anyway, so your justification isn't convincing to me.

I agree with you about seeing how other players react at this stage.

[Auro]

Of course, if that was just you saying that and not expecting us to necessarily believe it, apologies.

[Lamees]

VOTE: auro

Yeah yeah I know, opportunistic. I mean, we need 5 votes so of course any vote after the first or second one is now gonna get called opportunistic as a defense mechanism and because it's the in-word. Good luck getting 5 votes without being called opportunistic though lol.

I just don't think auro has taken this vote pressure from FL well. He is kinda flailing imo, he was all about votes for pressure but when it's on him the pressure was a bit too much. Pair that with the feeling I have that he has been prodding me all game in hopes I say something scummy for him to latch onto. High chance we got scum here. Also I really dont mind auro vs lamees too. So we can do that. By all means vote me if you think I'm scum.

[Auro]

I just don't think auro has taken this vote pressure from FL well. He is kinda flailing imo, he was all about votes for pressure but when it's on him the pressure was a bit too much. Pair that with the feeling I have that he has been prodding me all game in hopes I say something scummy for him to latch onto. High chance we got scum here. Also I really dont mind auro vs lamees too

I'm all about votes for pressure because pressure makes you engage. Which is what I'm doing. Which part of my exchange seemed like flails to you and not a valid counterargument?

I've been prodding you to say something scummy, while also saying that you often say scummy things but I'd attribute it to playstyle?

Second time you said "I don't mind X vs Lamees". LAMIST.

[snowbeast]

With no experience FL seems town for now. He might just be good at the game.
I honestly can't keep track of Lamees. Quoting from previous games doesn't help me and it seems she is trying hard to convince everybody of her innocence or lack thereof

[Lamees]

@auro You have been trying, and after the FL vote you confirmed it to me, that you were lining me up as the next scum target after the volxen wagon lost momentum.

[snowbeast]

From real life experience when we question suspected poachers the innocent have one solid story and the guilty bounce around under pressure

[Auro]

Lamees, do you think I engage only in defense?

If I was lining you up as the next scum target, why would I vote for FL instead of voting for you? Or do you mean the next target after scum!me gets FL lynched, in which case - why would I attribute scummy looking posts of yours as NAI?

[Lamees]

From real life experience when we question suspected poachers the innocent have one solid story and the guilty bounce around under pressure

What do you think of auros reaction to FLs vote on him then?

[Auro]

From real life experience when we question suspected poachers the innocent have one solid story and the guilty bounce around under pressure

Above question goes to you as well. I'm engaging not out of defense only, but as part of scumhunting too.

[snowbeast]

From real life experience when we question suspected poachers the innocent have one solid story and the guilty bounce around under pressure

What do you think of auros reaction to FLs vote on him then?

Also seems to be under a lot of pressure.
Auto also needs to be investigated.

[Auro]

What do you think of auros reaction to FLs vote on him then?

You can't respond to questions with accusations that scum!Auro is prodding you into saying something scummy and lynch you.

And there you go, deflecting questions and asking someone about their reads instead.

[Auro]

Also seems to be under a lot of pressure.
Auto also needs to be investigated.

Interesting. I don't think I'm under any pressure - one of my votes is VLA after an exchange he seems to have null read me for, another thinks I could be scum from his own perspective (which is flawed) and one because, well, she's Lamees.

Being under pressure doesn't imply scum, the way they respond to it does.

[Lamees]

Lamees, do you think I engage only in defense?

If I was lining you up as the next scum target, why would I vote for FL instead of voting for you? Or do you mean the next target after scum!me gets FL lynched, in which case - why would I attribute scummy looking posts of yours as NAI?

That's the thing, it's like you'll throw in words like lamist and anti town but wont commit to a vote without any support, since it'd attract too much attention to you. You even quote a post of mine just to throw shade with stuff like "if FL doesnt see this as opportunistic" etc. It's like you are waiting for that 1 or 2 townies to start the wagon from the little hints you give. That is a true scum agenda. After a townie or two forms a wagon, you then capitalize on it with all the content you have been soft pushing throughout the thread. You voted FL because ariane voted FL.

[Auro]

However, don't keep me at L-1 yet - NM may quickhammer. Treat L-2 as L-1 and ask for a claim before intending to hammer me.

[Lamees]

What do you think of auros reaction to FLs vote on him then?

You can't respond to questions with accusations that scum!Auro is prodding you into saying something scummy and lynch you.

And there you go, deflecting questions and asking someone about their reads instead.

Are you referring to post 210? I wanted to address 209 too so that's why I posted to him first. Unless you are forcing me into tunnelling you?

[snowbeast]

From real life experience when we question suspected poachers the innocent have one solid story and the guilty bounce around under pressure

Above question goes to you as well. I'm engaging not out of defense only, but as part of scumhunting too.

Irl we use non verbal communication like fidgeting and visible stress. Here we are all keyboard warriors and can't see each other face to face.
Reason I have not voted is maybe entering night might be good. People can investigate and hopefully get results. Also 5 votes for a lynch. I think we have 3 maf so of those 5 if it's a townie lynch we know 3 of them are maf. I'm not jumping on a band wagon and then have to explain myself unless the person makes a fatal error and warrants a lynch

[Auro]

That's the thing, it's like you'll throw in words like lamist and anti town but wont commit to a vote without any support, since it'd attract too much attention to you. You even quote a post of mine just to throw shade with stuff like "if FL doesnt see this as opportunistic" etc. It's like you are waiting for that 1 or 2 townies to start the wagon from the little hints you give. That is a true scum agenda. After a townie or two forms a wagon, you then capitalize on it with all the content you have been soft pushing throughout the thread. You voted FL because ariane voted FL.

Do you disagree with my reasons on why I don't want to commit to a vote on you, or scumread you?

I've been attracting a LOT of attention to me all game. I was quoting your post to peek into FL's thought processes, which i was successful at. If I was scum, there have been loads of wagons already I could've capitalized on, all with equally strong reasons.

I voted FL because I think the case on him is valid, which he agrees with, and a townread of mine is voting for him. Which part of this is scummy?

[snowbeast]

Also seems to be under a lot of pressure.
Auto also needs to be investigated.

Interesting. I don't think I'm under any pressure - one of my votes is VLA after an exchange he seems to have null read me for, another thinks I could be scum from his own perspective (which is flawed) and one because, well, she's Lamees.

Being under pressure doesn't imply scum, the way they respond to it does.

I'm not accusing. I'm just calling it as I see it

[Auro]

Are you referring to post 210? I wanted to address 209 too so that's why I posted to him first. Unless you are forcing me into tunnelling you?

Umm, asking you questions and wanting you to engage is now scum forcing you to tunnel them?

[Lamees]

From real life experience when we question suspected poachers the innocent have one solid story and the guilty bounce around under pressure

Above question goes to you as well. I'm engaging not out of defense only, but as part of scumhunting too.

Irl we use non verbal communication like fidgeting and visible stress. Here we are all keyboard warriors and can't see each other face to face.
Reason I have not voted is maybe entering night might be good. People can investigate and hopefully get results. Also 5 votes for a lynch. I think we have 3 maf so of those 5 if it's a townie lynch we know 3 of them are maf. I'm not jumping on a band wagon and then have to explain myself unless the person makes a fatal error and warrants a lynch

There are two mafia. 7 town. And no I am not taking this as a town slip lol.

[Auro]

Reason I have not voted is maybe entering night might be good. People can investigate and hopefully get results. Also 5 votes for a lynch. I think we have 3 maf so of those 5 if it's a townie lynch we know 3 of them are maf. I'm not jumping on a band wagon and then have to explain myself unless the person makes a fatal error and warrants a lynch

Look at the setup. It's likely we'd have only one useful investigative result. It's always better to sort people as much as possible without relying on investigatives too much.

Which implies dayphase talk is important, and using your votes as tools is important.