[Game Over] Newbie 1900 - Robocalypse

[Lamees]

Flavor Leaf (L-3)

: Ariane, volxen

Auro (L-4)

: snowbeast

Lamees (L-4)

: Not_Mafia

volxen (L-4)

: Flavor Leaf

Ariane (L-4)

: YurikoJasmine

lionheart1492, Auro, Lamees

I can see why you would push the fact thatnI'm "anti town" all game. So that you can shift blame later on.

[Auro]

I *think* I know what you've been trying to do, it's just not gonna work
But go on if you believe that.

[Lamees]

Wish I knew what on earth you're referring to.

[MiniDeathStar]

N

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G

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1900

Notice

Performer

replaces YurikoJasmine.

[MiniDeathStar]

November 22, 2018 - 7:05 PM (GMT)

Day 1

After a brief struggle, the mountain of "starving millennial" refreshments had won the
battle for attention and soon most participants forgot they were about to 'lunch' Auro.
The distraction however proved to be short-lasting, as moments later the snack hill found
itself flattened by an unidentified flying object.

volxen:

Oops.

Lamees:

Heey, what the hell?

volxen:

How was I to know my helm would pop like a champagne cork?

Flavor Leaf:

Yeah, no, you did that on purpose. Let's lunch him, boys.

volxen:

Jumpy much? That's robotic.

Ariane:

Guys. Yuriko.

It turned out the pile of cheeto-stuffed taco shells wasn't the only casualty of the mini
meteor. Beneath the smeared Mars bars lied YurikoJasmine, unconscious and sprawled
on the floor. A bump as big as a young cockerel's stone decorated her brow.

Not two seconds later, a hulking white machine stormed the room. It bore uncanny
resemblance to the giant death robot they all knew and loved, save for the blaring
sirens and a couple rotating beacons in place of the oblitarator beams. Obviously this
was intended to serve as an ambulance, by someone who had probably only seen one
on a child's drawing.

As if to prove things

could

get more awkward than this, Miss Star's voice cracked
through the robot's speaker-mouth, but even with the volume cranked to the max,
she could barely penetrate the deafening roar of the siren.

Invigilator:

SORRY FOR THE IMPROMPTU SOLUTION! WE DIDN'T PLAN ON HAVING PARTICIPANTS
SURVI— ER, SUFFER INJURIES! PASS YURIKO TO THE BOT, I DON'T THINK IT'S PROGRAMMED TO PICK
HER BY ITSELF WITHOUT CRUSHING HER!

They didn't dwell much on the question whether a giant death robot really needed a
siren to make its way through, or whether it should've had an off switch. The sooner
they got rid of it, the better.

A few eardrum-tormenting moments later, the operation was safely executed and the
machine giant was on its way. Its place was taken by Performer, a rather imposing
fellow who for some reason wore a bin bag on his head, adorned with a question mark.

Not_Mafia:

I guess you're the substitute.

Performer:

Hey guys. I'm human.

Flavor Leaf:

Convincing.

volxen:

I'm hungry. Can you order something more edible this time?

Auro:

No. You did this. Go peel yourself a burito or something.

Lamees:

Ew.

volxen:

Fuck you. I'll have one double cheeseburger with a side of fries, please.

To volxen's delight, the hatch did indeed open. This time, a robotic arm crawled out
and promptly identified and scraped some squashed remains off the floor, before
delivering them into volxen's waiting hands. He responded by flinging them back at the
arm, but the arm was faster and the hatch managed to shut just before the mess
splattered on the ceiling. The arm reappeared briefly to flip volxen the bird.

The rest mysteriously decided they weren't hungry anymore.

Flavor Leaf (L-3)

: Ariane, volxen

Auro (L-4)

: snowbeast

Lamees (L-4)

: Not_Mafia

volxen (L-4)

: Flavor Leaf

Ariane (L-4)

: Performer

Not voting:

lionheart1492, Auro, Lamees

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline for Day 1 actions:

November 25, 2018 - 6:50 AM (GMT)

You have (expired on 2018-11-25 06:50:00) to discuss and decide on a lynch.

Vote Count 1.06

[Performer]

Hello all, I have read nothing except the mod's first few posts on pg 1 . I am town and know nothing else....hey NM & FL!

[Performer]

Don't know when deadline is but I hope it's extended due to Thanksgiving? Anyway I'll be busy today so I can't catch up until tomorrow AT EARLIEST...

[Not_Mafia]

Yo scumformer

[Flavor Leaf]

Yo perfscummer.

[Flavor Leaf]

Super busy, slight VLA until Monday, but I’ll still be able to like ‘post’. Maybe even often sometimes, but I am going out of town.

Also busy today last minute for having to help setup some thanksgiving stuff at a buddy’s.

I think my last bigger post is better reasons for ScumVolxen than the other stuff I was going to point out, but I can put together a case, but I think things have just evolved past that. My last Volxen post blows my case out of the water for explaining why he’s likely scum.

Lamees could be doing it as scum, sure, but at the moment, I don’t have any reason to believe so, and I can see genuine townie reactions in her posts. If enough actions happen that shows otherwise, then yeah, get on her.

I’m happy with Volxen

[Ariane]

performer how long from now will that be—can you give an estimate in hours?

[Auro]

Ariane, you were gonna post some thoughts yourself..?
Only thing discouraging me from going ahead with Volxen is Lamees' attempts to rush it.

[Auro]

I've read Volxen's ISO, and it's funny how he never responded to WHY he shifted his vote from me to Flavor Leaf.

He talks about how scum!Flavor could have motivations in unvoting me, and concludes by saying: "The fact that you left Auro's wagon in favor of voting for me and presenting a case against me does not in and of itself clear you as town."

He said he voiced skepticism of Flavor way back in post 245. Even there, it's just skepticism and NOT a scumread. He simply says that if Flavor's town it makes sense, and if Flavor's scum it makes sense.

To summarise, from Volx's POV:
1. Flavor's reaction test can come from town or scum
2. Flavor's unvoting Auro can come from town or scum

And goes on to unvote me and vote Flavor. While maintaining that he's *highly* suspicious of me.

Therefore,
VOTE: Volxen

[Auro]

I can see why you would push the fact thatnI'm "anti town" all game. So that you can shift blame later on.

If I would have gotten lynched, you would've gotten lynched in D2 ("taking full responsibility") and put town in LyLo.

[Lamees]

Ariane, you were gonna post some thoughts yourself..?
Only thing discouraging me from going ahead with Volxen is Lamees' attempts to rush it.

I am not even voting volxen let alone rushing a lynch on him lol

[Auro]

What's your Volxen read? Do you agree/disagree with our case on him?
Where will you be voting?

[Lamees]

Still a null read to me. I'll be voting NM.

[Auro]

You don't think NM is an easy lynch?
Which part of our case on Volxen do you disagree with?

[volxen]

Super busy, slight VLA until Monday, but I’ll still be able to like ‘post’. Maybe even often sometimes, but I am going out of town.

Also busy today last minute for having to help setup some thanksgiving stuff at a buddy’s.

I think my last bigger post is better reasons for ScumVolxen than the other stuff I was going to point out, but I can put together a case, but I think things have just evolved past that.

My last Volxen post blows my case out of the water for explaining why he’s likely scum

.

Lamees could be doing it as scum, sure, but at the moment, I don’t have any reason to believe so, and I can see genuine townie reactions in her posts. If enough actions happen that shows otherwise, then yeah, get on her.

I’m happy with Volxen

Your last post about me is really bad (and misleading) VCA where you try to establish that I am scum because I was on Auro's wagon and your wagon, which is not an accurate representation of what really happened:

The OMGUS.

I believe there to be scum on the Auro wagon alongside the Me wagon.

You have officially become the first person to be on both the Auro wagon and now the Me wagon. I don’t think Lamees does this bit she’s been doing as scum. I know I’m town. I understood what Auro said about snowbeast seeming newb town.

That effectively leaves you, and now as a defense you’re pushing me again as an OMGUS and forcing a 1v1.

Also, your posting towards me completely leaves out the scum motivation of me unvoting Auro as the second biggest wagon, effectively collapsing his wagon, where I didn’t push Lamees even though she was pushing me as scummy for reasons other has stated were not scummy, alongside your mention of saying it’s “highly unlikely” that both Auro and myself are both town.

If that’s how you feel, why did you switch from Auro to me? Auro was the leading wagon.

You are acting like me being scum is the only explanation for both Auro's wagon and your wagon. It's not.

First of all, you never even got up to L-1. Only Auro did. These were the wagon compositions when both of your wagons were at their highest points:

Auro (L-1): volxen, Flavor Leaf, Lamees, snowbeast

Flavor Leaf (L-2): Ariane, Auro, Not_Mafia

I was not on your original wagon when you got up to L-2. There is no one who was on both of your wagons at their highest points.

And beyond that, your wagon only got up to L-2. Why are you convinced there had to be scum on your wagon with only three voters on you? If you got up to L-1 then I would agree it's highly likely that there was scum on your wagon, and I've made this argument in multiple games when doing wagon analysis (although In Newbie 1893 I did get up to L-1, as town, without any scum on my wagon so it can happen). So if anything, Auro's wagon is the more likely wagon to have contained scum, and you were on that wagon.

Yes I am voting for you now, but at the moment only Ariane and I are voting for you, so it's misleading when you say that I am the only person to be on both of your wagons, when I was never on your original wagon when you got up to L-2 with three votes.

So your wagon previously was {Ariane, Auro, Not_Mafia} and now it is {Ariane, Volxen}. If you are convinced that you didn't get up to L-2 without scum involvement, then why are you fixated on my slot when I had nothing to do with you originally getting up to L-2?

Do you believe all three of Ariane, Auro, and Not_Mafia are town?

And by the way, my original wagon was {Auro, Flavor Leaf, Lion}, so fmpov I could make the same argument about you since you were on both my wagon and Auro's wagon at their highest points.

As far as why you left the Auro wagon, I'm not going to claim to know your full agenda if you are scum, but there are logical reasons for you to do this if you are scum. If you and Auro are scum together then your motivation is clear: the both of you cross-voted each other to do some distancing, but neither of you actually wanted to bus the other.

But even if you are scum and Auro is town, you could have left his wagon because you determined that I would be a safer day 1 mislynch for you going into day 2. My slot has taken a fair bit of heat in this game, perhaps more than Auro's overall (and I also was the first wagon), so perhaps you concluded that I would be a safer day 1 mislynch that would result in less scrutiny towards your slot on day 2. After all if you are scum you don't want to just pull off a mislynch, but you also want to set yourself up to look good going into day 2.

The fact that you left Auro's wagon in favor of voting for me and presenting a case against me does not in and of itself clear you as town.

In case it needs to be repeated once again:

Auro (L-1): volxen, Flavor Leaf, Lamees, snowbeast

Flavor Leaf (L-2): Ariane, Auro, Not_Mafia

I am not the common denominator between the original Auro wagon and the original FL wagon. And that was your premise: that you believe that there was scum on both Auro's original wagon and your original wagon (we don't know this for certain), and that I was the common denominator between both original wagons (not true).

There was no common denominator between Auro's original wagon and your original wagon

, but you've been insistent that you believe that you didn't get up to L-2 without scum involvement, because you believe that scum wouldn't pass up the chance to flock to your wagon because you are the IC. Based on this you previously concluded that there had to be scum among {Ariane, Auro, Not_Mafia}, which you then narrowed down to {Ariane, Not_Mafia} after saying that you thought Auro is town. And yet, you aren't talking about Ariane or Not_Mafia anymore, but are instead focused solely on me. This doesn't make sense if you are as convinced as you claim to be that scum absolutely played a part in you getting up to L-2.

Yes, I am voting for you at the moment. Your 2-person wagon is currently {Ariane, Volxen}, but I will remind you that Auro and and Not_Mafia had both already unvoted you at the time that I switched my vote from Auro to you. If you meant to argue that you think I am scum because I was on Auro's wagon and because I am voting for you *now*, you should have worded it that way, but you made it sound like I was the common denominator between Auro's original wagon and your original wagon.

At best, this is just really bad VCA that doesn't prove anything, and at worst you are being deliberately misleading and are trying to connect me to your original L-2 wagon that I was not a part of.

This is why I am now more suspicious of you than I am of Auro.

[Auro]

Volxen, I'm not buying that.

You voted Flavor in 359.
Flavor's "VCA misrepresentation" was in 360.

Why did you unvote me and vote for him *in 359*?

[Auro]

Stealing post 420 before Flavor Leaf gets to it

[volxen]

Volxen, I'm not buying that.

You voted Flavor in 359.
Flavor's "VCA misrepresentation" was in 360.

Why did you unvote me and vote for him *in 359*?

I'm aware of that timeline. I was already suspicious of him at the time that I voted for him, especially when he uses language like "a wagon is brewing on you", where he is talking as if my lynch today is a foregone conclusion before he even presented a "case" against me. His follow up with the VCA misrepresentation just further cemented my suspicions of his slot.

I changed my vote to him because that is where I currently want to apply pressure.

[Auro]

I'm aware of that timeline. I was already suspicious of him at the time that I voted for him, especially when he uses language like "a wagon is brewing on you", where he is talking as if my lynch today is a foregone conclusion before he even presented a "case" against me. His follow up with the VCA misrepresentation just further cemented my suspicions of his slot.

"A wagon is brewing on you" doesn't mean your lynch is a foregone conclusion.
It was perfectly reasonable, as he and I were ready to vote for you, and a couple of slots who were townreading me could've, as well.
(Ariane and Not_Maf both think my wagon was scum motivated)
I can't buy that that phrase alone made you more suspicious of ME, who you were "highly suspicious" of, where the rest of his actions could, in your words, "come from town or scum".

I changed my vote to him because that is where I currently want to apply pressure.

We're pretty close to the day end, so this doesn't even make sense. I was your top scumread, and anyone who votes at that time votes to lynch, not just to 'apply pressure'.

[volxen]

Given Not_Mafia's track record of quickhammering, if I get up to L-2 intent to place me at L-1 should be stated before actually putting me at L-1.

[Auro]

No other defense? Volxen, give us a detailed reads list.