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[skitter30]

i mean my point is that he indicated more than the usual amount of interest denoted by typing /in by asking to replace in imo

and i meant why is creature at the bottom of your readslist in this game, not why you don't like him in general

[Creature]

why?

See who replaced

[Creature]

talk to me more about why you don't like creature?

Some players don't like playstyle different than their own

[Creature]

Because he spams games with a ton of fluff in a thousand one-line posts. You do NOT want to be in lylo with him.

I'm pretty easy to read and my reads on LyLo tend to be atleast as good as average

[Creature]

and i meant why is creature at the bottom of your readslist in this game, not why you don't like him in general

Apparently the player you hate = scum

[Creature]

lolskitter

[Creature]

sometimes the answer really is as simple as: it's just the lurkers

i've had three games recently where the entire scumteam lurked (or, more accurately, two where the entire scumteam lurked and a third where the surviving two members lurked for the four dayphases after the first scum got lynched and they were both lurking the first two days too)

i don't think flubber's rep-out was particularly ai, but i do think that tex was scummy for having indicated he wanted to play (posting on page 1; i'm pretty sure the mod didn't post a replacement request in the replacement thread after flubber repped out, which indicates he indicated to her he was interested in repping in) but disappearing after he got his role pm

like he indicated he wanted to play; i'm not sure why he didn't actually play when he got the oppurtunity to do so and i feel flaking in that circumstance is scum-indicative

talk to me more about why you don't like creature?

Still a valid complaint from salty town

[Creature]

Persivul is also town

[Creature]

bji's now looking bad

[Creature]

Yo skitter, wanna sail some game lynching easy scum?

[Creature]

rn I have you and Persivul as town and bji as scum

[Creature]

Oh, Clemency still town

[Creature]

I gotta reconsider Garmr, his play seems to buddy on me.

[Creature]

Hmm, why is Sashaddin town again?

[skitter30]

and i meant why is creature at the bottom of your readslist in this game, not why you don't like him in general

Apparently the player you hate = scum

i mean i understand that he doesn't like you (and that you don't seem to like him either?)

but i'm wondering if you're at the bottom of his readlist just because he doesn't like you or if he thinks you've actually been scummy here

lolskitter

? not sure what this is referring to

==

ok you can maybe be town?

i'm feeling better about persivul compared to the previous inhabitants of his slot but not enough to remove the overall scummy feeling from the slot

i think garmr is pretty townie
i'm conflicted on bji; not entirely sure how to read him

i have sash as a townlean but like not super strongly or anything

[Creature]

ok you can maybe be town?

I think I'll never be considered obvtown as town ever again lol

[Lady Angel]

Votecount 1.11:

Bji: 2 (Garmr, Irrelephant11)
Persivul: 3 (Sashaddin, Skitter30, Clemency)

L-2

Creature: 2 (bji, ReaperOfSouls)
Clemency: 1 (Persivul)

If this is incorrect please notify me as to what needs to be changed. I write these by hand and thus mistakes are inevitable.

Not voting: Creature

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Day 1 will end on December 1st, 2018 at 3:30 PM PST or 7 days, 23 hours, and 44 minutes from this post.

As it's american thanksgiving weekend, no prods will be given out until monday. Sashaddin will be V/LA from then until wednesday.

[Creature]

The scumteam is bji and Sashaddin with bji going "I'm pretty sure Sashaddin is town and I have quotes"?

[Persivul]

i mean my point is that he indicated more than the usual amount of interest denoted by typing /in by asking to replace in imo

My point is that I disagree that that's a significant didstinction at all, and comes across as an excuse to scum read someone who's not around to defend anyway.

and i meant why is creature at the bottom of your readslist in this game, not why you don't like him in general

What has he done to advance the game? Nothing that I can see.

[Garmr]

I gotta reconsider Garmr, his play seems to buddy on me.

How am I buddying you? I pushed for your lynch and still think your slot is scum.

[Garmr]

Oh well anyway persivul is a odd one. was going to post some thought but I need to go to work.

[bji]

creature why is sashaddin obvtown? The more they post the less I feel they're town

Sashaddin is the only player I absolutely will not lynch today.

Please towncase the slot, quotes and all
I even would prefer a wall from you in this case

Later. I am at work right now and don't have the time to wall, believe it or not ...

Well actually I don't have any wall to post on this. I was going to try to draw something convincing up from his ISO but after re-reading it a few times I don't think I can. I just generally find him to be the least scummy player here, his approach is consistent and rational. His posts seem to be in three general categories: factual observations about the game, casual votes based on those observations, and discussions of game mechanics. If he is scum, he's not trying very hard. He hasn't tried to cast any unjustified doubt on any slots that I saw, and I liked his evidence in scum casing other players.

[bji]

sometimes the answer really is as simple as: it's just the lurkers

Sure - but that's what cops, vigs etc. are for.

Interesting. Why don't we just let the cops, vigs, etc, find all the scum for us then?

I agree with Skitter30, there is a good argument against the Tex slot based on the replace outs from that slot. Every bit of in-game evidence is just speculation because the scum are lying through their teeth all the time here, and spotting that is hard. But you can't lie about a replace out. It happens and is factual evidence. I wouldn't mind basing my Day 1 vote on such factual evidence when the alternative is all WIFOM.

And the fact that you replaced into that slot and immediately went after Clemency, doesn't really clean the slot in my opinion.

Post 510: the very first thing you do after entering the game is focus on Clem.

the poor soul that has to play the tex slot

Why do you say that?

I think it's obvious to anybody why Clem would write that. He obviously thinks that the slot is highly suspected because it's been twice replaced out on Day 1 and will have a hard time redeeming itself. Also given Clem's play style it's an expected thing for him to say -- he doesn't really make cases, just fluffy observations.

It looks like you're trying to pick an argument with Clemency; there is no good reason for starting a back-and-forth with him on his throwaway comment otherwise.

I would venture a guess that from your position, Clemency is possibly the easiest person to a) get to move off of your wagon with some pressure given that he's capitulated to just about every counterpoint in this game thus far, and b) get some momentum towards as a mislynch vote given that he hasn't shown the ability or interest in defending himself. Under pressure he's acted like he's defeated before the argument even starts and is expecting to be lynched (from my first exchange with him). That would probably be a good player to try to turn the attention to, especially if you think that you're likely to be able to make him look bad in every exchange, which it appears you try to do (post 513, post 514).

or, in other words - i don't particularly have a problem with the one post he did make so much as i find *the absence* of other posts scummy after he indicated he was eager to play this game

what do you think of my voting your slot?
(ie why are you pushing clemency in 510 and not, say, me?

I think your vote is lazy af. Flubber's been arounf the block, so his replace out is NAI. This guy didn't even know how to get in a game. When he came in he was overwhlemed and flaked. Again, NAI. But, I have you as a town lean on your overall activity.

So when Clemency votes your slot for its replace-outs, he's scummy? But when Skitter does it, it's just because she's lazy?

[Clemency]

hey look it's those things i wanted to say but was too dumb to formulate in a smart way
thanks bji
owe you one

[Clemency]

inb4 buddying