micro 833: a coalition (D O N E)

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Spoiler:

Vote count 1.9

lynch:

Not_Mafia (3):

Gamma Emerald, DVa, skitter30

probs a robot(2):

YurikoJasmine, Not_Mafia

DVa (1):

Raya36

not voting (3):

The Dark Wanderer, northsidegal, probs a robot

coalition:

• The Dark Wanderer
  : The Dark Wanderer, skitter30, northsidegal, DVa, Raya36
  
• probs a robot
  : northsidegal, The Dark Wanderer, Raya36, skitter30, DVa

• skitter30
  : skitter30, The Dark Wanderer, northsidegal, Raya36, probs a robot

• Raya36
  : skitter30, The Dark Wanderer, northsidegal, Raya36
  
• Gamma Emerald
  : The Dark Wanderer, northsidegal, Gamma Emerald, YurikoJasmine
  
• DVa
  : The Dark Wanderer, DVa, Gamma Emerald, northsidegal
  
• northsidegal
  : northsidegal, Raya36, probs a robot
  
• YurikoJasmine
  : YurikoJasmine, The Dark Wanderer, Not_Mafia
  
• Not_Mafia
  : none proposed

with 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch. day 1 ends november 28th at 23:00 central US time; in 4 dog years and 7 boat-miles

mod notes

• continuing to replace raya and yurikojasmine . . .
  
• skitter is VLA on fridays and saturdays
  
• micro 833: a coalition

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[northsidegal]

okay i so i think the not mafia slot actually has really decent scum equity so i'm going to try some partner hunting, perhaps specifically on the slots that i'm least sure about (dva, robot mainly)

i will say just from memory that it makes skitter look worse in my mind given her initial response to tes' posting which got him scumread by myself and TDW

[northsidegal]

i mean perhaps it's just different times producing different results but NM was in the first coalition game that ran and he was pretty enthusiastic about his "broalition" there (even ending up in the consensus coalition, if you all can believe that)

so yeah. even if he does end up being town i would still say it'd be the correct move to have excluded him

[northsidegal]

oh, i know who probs a robot is i think. okay, i think he's almost certainly town here.

[northsidegal]

haha, ellibereth was right.

[probs a robot]

He usually is

[northsidegal]

@skitter i'm gonna have to bug you again sorry
you mentioned you saw some townlike/what-tes-does-as-town-like stuff from tes early on. could you point me to it?

I am now exactly 47% more interested in this than I was before!

i don't have much motivation/energy for mafia today, so i'm going to hold off going through that wall bit-by-bit till probably sunday

but basically i remember him in that game being try-hard; efforting; lynch-bait-y and not realizing he came off as being lynch-baity; kinda tone-deaf to that sort of thing if that makes sense; i remember a couple of people saying they would want to push him if he weren't effectively conftown; i may have even said that, i don't remember

his early walls (like 48, 52) here kinda gave off that same try-hard-lynch-bait-y feel to me, if that makes sense
like it looks/feels kinda surface-level scummy by asking kinda pointless questions and being overly try-hard by commenting on like every other post, if that makes sense
but that's kinda how i remember him from that newbie

i didn't really have a problem with his entrance, and i don't think flaking is particularly ai either tbh

like the walls feel more like 'newb tryhard that wants to contribute' than 'asking pointless questions to fill up space' to me if that makes sense

i also feel like it's a fine read for page3 or whatever it was, not nearly as good for page35

despite thinking that the way that skitter reacted to tes' early posting is partner indicative, the fact that she still maintains that it's valid to me makes it seem like it's more likely to be something she actually believes, especially given that she's saying that while still scumreading NM (and being cognizant of that). i would at least imagine that scum!skitter, if switching to a scumread on NM, would be more likely to say something like "oh looking back it's not really much to go off of" or something like that.

perhaps i'm understimating skitter's ability or something like that, but maintaining that your reasons to townread a predecessor while simultaneously townreading the person who replaced them seems like the kind of odditiy that you don't see often that just comes from town who actually have that belief rather than scum just making things up.

[probs a robot]

I agree about skitter's early interactions with Tes. I wasn't absolutely sold on scum!Tes earlier in the game but I figured even if he was town, skitter felt too confident in the read

now that she's elaborated i actually don't dislike where she was coming from with it; also when you have experience with lynchbaity players i think it's actually pretty instinctual to over-defend them a bit even when you are town at least, it's something i've caught myself doing more than once.

[Gamma Emerald]

I tried to get started on the next batch and thought I was on track but I keep stalling because there’s a dead zone where nothing catches my eye
I’ll keep working on it but it’ll take some time

[skitter30]

But there's no way you're both scum, one of the two of you is just a playstyle conflict, and with the lurkers and replace outs and frozen deadline I'm just like... meh

why do you think both nsg and robot aren't scum?

==

Still strongly object to Robot placing in the town block

i think he's townie for him tbh

==

i think maybe this is something scum!skitter tries to do when playing with people with a lot of experience with her who she needs to change the reads of, but probably not something that naturally occurs to skitter to do as a wolf in an isolated situation

i mean nsg was aware of my scumplay in both gerrymandering and pick your poison (although tbf to the latter i'm not sure how much she was following? idk)

but yeah for the most part except for her in this playerlist there isn't really anyone i'd be too worried about as scum tbh, except for like you but i didn't know it was you at that point; i think i figured it out during that convo; like people in this pl have largely not really seen my scumplay and i could get by with like generically-looking-towniness probably just fine tbh

like it would *occur* to me to insert myself into that convo, but it's not something i would bother trying to effort in that gamestate really if that makes sense

also you know how i react to real-time convos as scum

==

if switching to a scumread on NM, would be more likely to say something like "oh looking back it's not really much to go off of" or something like that.

i mean i did say something along the lines of 'that was a valid read for that stage of the game, not so much for this stage'

[DVa]

why do you think both nsg and robot aren't scum?

Well, I'm usually not *that* wrong on reads 0.o

[DVa]

oh, i know who probs a robot is i think. okay, i think he's almost certainly town here.

Can you expand on the nature of this meta read? I know you don't want to out him, but I'd like to know what sort of metric you're using

[DVa]

I tried to get started on the next batch and thought I was on track but I keep stalling because there’s a dead zone where nothing catches my eye
I’ll keep working on it but it’ll take some time

Maybe just ignore the garbage and focus on the shit that isn't NAI?

[DVa]

november 28th at 23:00 central US time

Wait,

@mod do we really only have 2 days left?

Is the deadline frozen due to replacements or what?

[the worst]

seeking replacement for yurikojasmine

consider the deadline paused, i will figure out how to extend it once slots are filled

[the worst]

Lol I ruby'd
Ah well

[skitter30]

you kept it going for a good while tho

ftr the first time i thought i figured it out i was thinking a50

then i was confused

then i thought it was you (i realized non-north-american timezone)

and then you pranked me with vizzy

and then i went back to check spelling (flavour, recognise, etc)

and then i settled on you again

and then you talked a lot about my meta

and then i just like knew it was you

[skitter30]

why do you think both nsg and robot aren't scum?

Well, I'm usually not *that* wrong on reads 0.o

fair enough, fair enough

[skitter30]

also you told me after stack-the-deck that you wanted to play so eventually i realized mystery-alt replacemtn could well be you

[DVa]

Lol I ruby'd
Ah well

?

[DVa]

robot is the worst?

[probs a robot]

I was feverposting during the skitter meta discussion, some of the language I used was tantamount to a private alt slip. I was considering outing on the alt just so it was a more even playing field but uh yeah..

"Ruby'd" is a private joke - just means I mainslipped while posting in character.

hold on I'll be back soon

pedit: yeah

[Gamma Emerald]

seeking replacement for yurikojasmine

consider the deadline paused, i will figure out how to extend it once slots are filled

Lol I ruby'd
Ah well

GOD, DAMMIT
I think that might change how your posts look
Fuck me...

[DVa]

OK well hopefully this will mean everyone can stop being so oblique with their meta reads

[northsidegal]

I was feverposting during the skitter meta discussion, some of the language I used was tantamount to a private alt slip. I was considering outing on the alt just so it was a more even playing field but uh yeah..

haha, i really did think that one thing you said was kind of unique and just decided to try being ellibereth for a second

i figured it out after a single search

i had no clue at all before that, though!