Excalibur [Endgame]

[DVa]

That’s not my weird theory for fucks sake

was that paragraph sarcasm?

[Elsa Jay]

Let's say Lady gets the sword and the first thing she does is challenge me day 2 so town will never get the option to do anything. You lynch me because I'm not the sword wielder. Lady gets her way.

Lady does the same thing day 3, and again, she wins since she has the sword. Day 4, guess what, she does the same thing.

I will forever hang a shitty town if it means the rest of the player base has fun.

lol you must think LLD really is RC

The point is, that's possible. I want it to be known we cant stand for that shit if the sword wielder just challenges whoever the want to kill that we just do it. Then nobody but them has any opinion.

Dunn: well if I'm alive at that point and they're doing what I suggested they might do, I'll sure as hell try to lynch them.

[Auro]

Let's say Lady gets the sword and the first thing she does is challenge me day 2 so town will never get the option to do anything. You lynch me because I'm not the sword wielder. Lady gets her way.

Lady does the same thing day 3, and again, she wins since she has the sword. Day 4, guess what, she does the same thing.

I will forever hang a shitty town if it means the rest of the player base has fun.

This is a valid concern - Gladiation mechanics means the holder may force us to kills, if town never lynches the holder.

[Firebringer]

HURT: auro

[DVa]

Like LLD is high strung but I don't at present think she'd yolo gladiate people if she had the sword, she's not an idiot and knows that would be awful for town information

[Firebringer]

Aurora, are you a native english speaker?

[DVa]

I'm inclined to agree with Fire, Auro you're saying some wild shit this game

[Auro]

The point is, that's possible. I want it to be known we cant stand for that shit if the sword wielder just challenges whoever the want to kill that we just do it. Then nobody but them has any opinion.

Dunn: well if I'm alive at that point and they're doing what I suggested they might do, I'll sure as hell try to lynch them.

Agree, and I'll actually follow Jay into this if IC gladiates to their whim, without consensus scumreads on the other.

[DVa]

I'm inclined to agree with Fire, Auro you're saying some wild shit this game

ebwop -- this was re the hurt in 628

[Auro]

I'm inclined to agree with Fire, Auro you're saying some wild shit this game

Wild shit being?

[Firebringer]

Aurora, are you a native english speaker?

[Auro]

Um, no, how is that relevant?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'd personally challenge thee wielder if they are shitty enough. You don't get to keep the sword if you hurt the game.

This is some spicy shit but I don’t think it’s scum yet

[Something_Smart]

Confirming the highest number of town is not the best goal. If an obvious townie who was going to die at night turns out to be confirmed, it does nothing for us.

What we want is one of two things: confirmed townies that scum can't kill before it matters (either BP or confirmed in LYLO), or being able to choose who gets confirmed (because we can pick scummy players to get either guiltied or confirmed).

Just for clarification; an example of the former being random claim on the sword and holding on to it, and only claiming before being pushed to gladiate, and an example of the latter being a scumread claiming and attempting to shoot?

Yes, that's pretty accurate.

Something_Smart over there in his scum PT like "Shit shit we gotta shut down Varsoon's plan because it's the fucking ideal one that gives town the best chances of winning. Let me propose some shit where our ICs lose all effectiveness entirely"

Oh wow surprise that line of posturing is garbage and does nothing to advance reads.
HURT: Something_Smart
Fucking moronic.
Delete your account and make a new one called Something_Scummy or Something_Stupid if you're gonna keep that shit up.

I did not propose a plan. I don't ever intend to do so, and I made that intention clear.

I did not even try to refute yours directly. I stated a principle that I believe. I asked something very simple:

agree with my principle or explain why you disagree.

You didn't do that. It's evident you barely read my post.

I like civil discussions. Maybe we can have one. But if we can't... it won't be me that's the reason why.

[Untrod Tripod]

Town intentionally killing itself so that town can eventually get a Vig that'll more often than not just kill more town is an awful idea.

See and it's also a perfect example of how scum could be able to hide in "lol this is optimal play tho" mechanics talk

[DVa]

This is a valid concern - Gladiation mechanics means the holder may force us to kills, if town never lynches the holder.

like this seems like fearmongering

We are not playing around the assumption that the sword holder plays like garbage.

[Firebringer]

HEAL: auro

i often scumread non native english speakers.

[Elsa Jay]

Like LLD is high strung but I don't at present think she'd yolo gladiate people if she had the sword, she's not an idiot and knows that would be awful for town information

Replace Lady with anyone elsa then. Dont focus on the specific person. Focus on the situation I present.

[Auro]

This is a valid concern - Gladiation mechanics means the holder may force us to kills, if town never lynches the holder.

like this seems like fearmongering

We are not playing around the assumption that the sword holder plays like garbage.

There's no assumption - it's a non-negligible possibility, and we should be prepared to deal with it if it happens.

[Firebringer]

HEAL: auro

i often scumread non native english speakers.

to expand on this i think i scumread non natives as scum because they put ideas in ways that just don't seem natural to me and it appears questionable also they tend to think in ways that generally run counter intuitive to my approach.

so it makes me suspect them more.

[DVa]

So you think UT or Varsoon would?

[Varsoon]

@SomethingSmart: You think that people claiming in LYLO makes them confirmed.
I refuted that already.
We can have civil discussions but you framing it like I'm the problem here when it's clear you haven't read my posts is troubling.

[Firebringer]

Dva where the hell is my gifs/videos.

ur not buying my loyalty like this.

[DVa]

it's a non-negligible possibility, and we should be prepared to deal with it if it happens.

WHO DO YOU IMAGINE DOING THIS THOUGH?

Why is it actually a non-negligible possibility and why is it worth talking about right now when it is so remote?

[Auro]

HEAL: auro

i often scumread non native english speakers.

O.o was my English crappy anywhere? Or are you referring to the alleged out-of-context baiting quote?

Anyway, I don't think you were as provocative as I assumed after your recent posts on it. Apologies if it disturbed you.

Pedit: I've been speaking English all life, and do think in it too, but I understand what you're saying -- People do generally get weird vibes from my tone.