micro 833: a coalition (D O N E)

[DVa]

I am not

You are voting me

[DVa]

Gamma is town

[skitter30]

dva, skitter, why don't you townread each other?

idk
a general lack of towniness
i've never really felt that she's *into* this game, or that her solving feels real
like her posts just feel spiritless/going-through-the-motions to me
like she's posting more to avoid a prod than to solve the game if that makes sense

She at one point was asking a lot of empty questions which pinged me but I've been thinking about the merits of various towncases on her

as i said about eight billion times now, the point of those questions was to try to get people to just like ... post anything
yes they were shallow, but i was using them to just draw people back into the game and do ... something, and not to necessarily sort them (cuz being present kinda helps with sorting)

p-edit makes sense coming from you given what you think about my blindspots in my townplay, but not a particularly good reason to heal me; def think i can fake that imo

i think you healed me a little too easily imo

[Gamma Emerald]

hi! I wasn't gonna play coalition twice, but I just like schadd and the playerlist so much and it would be really great to win this setup with the coalition twice

Hmmmm

[Irrelephant11]

oh lollll I am voting you huh
UNVOTE:

[Irrelephant11]

oh good a wild gamma appeared! I might actually sort the whole playerlist in one sitting at this rate

[DVa]

That and her reads of me and Gamma seem lazy

[Gamma Emerald]

hi! I wasn't gonna play coalition twice, but I just like schadd and the playerlist so much and it would be really great to win this setup with the coalition twice

Hmmmm

So I’m thinking Irrel’s “oh winning through coalition twice would be fun” is a little bit extravagant and LAMIST
I’m aware I said something to the same effect but mine wasn’t as unprompted as his as DVa asked my alignment

[skitter30]

That and her reads of me and Gamma seem lazy

do tell

[Irrelephant11]

p-edit makes sense coming from you given what you think about my blindspots in my townplay, but not a particularly good reason to heal me; def think i can fake that imo
i think you healed me a little too easily imo

right answer, I think
I was expecting "makes sense" + probably pushback on the weakness of the read, but without me having to ask for it
eh your response here is still the right answer, you just don't get as many points because I had to ask for it
I actually read/skimmed a lot of your ISO before doing much else. I thought moments like your early nsg heal, your "townread dependent on your identity" with the robot + "robot holding onto the gimmick is towny" (not the strongest reasoning but you said something similar last coalition game), and your self-consciousness about making a coalition that was maybe-overly-dependent-on-activity-as-a-townread were all good reasons to townread you
I didn't like 826, but nothing else pinged me (keeping in mind I was only reading like every third post fully, skimming two, etc)

[Irrelephant11]

hi! I wasn't gonna play coalition twice, but I just like schadd and the playerlist so much and it would be really great to win this setup with the coalition twice

Hmmmm

So I’m thinking Irrel’s “oh winning through coalition twice would be fun” is a little bit extravagant and LAMIST
I’m aware I said something to the same effect but mine wasn’t as unprompted as his as DVa asked my alignment

good thing I wrote other posts huh

[Irrelephant11]

can the scumteam be yuriko+not_mafia

[DVa]

So why did you start the game by isoing skitter?

[DVa]

can the scumteam be yuriko+not_mafia

Seems optimistic but not impossible

[Irrelephant11]

we've played together lots of times, including the last iteration of this setup (where we won together by being in the coalition together)
It felt like a good place to start

[Irrelephant11]

can the scumteam be yuriko+not_mafia

Seems optimistic but not impossible

it's how the last run went! We all PoE'd down to two lurky scum, got paranoid about it for a bit ("scum would be towntelling all over the place, not sitting on their hands!") and then it was still just them

[Irrelephant11]

I wonder if, counter to the paranoid-sort-of-intuition this setup breeds, scum are actually just as scummy in this setup as in any other setup

[Irrelephant11]

I will feel good about having that thought if it's yuriko+NM
in the meantime I guess I shouldn't settle for those reads and call it a solve yet

[DVa]

Do you plan to read from rvs or are you just doing isos? Not a criticism either way just wondering

[skitter30]

hi! I wasn't gonna play coalition twice, but I just like schadd and the playerlist so much and it would be really great to win this setup with the coalition twice

Hmmmm

So I’m thinking Irrel’s “oh winning through coalition twice would be fun” is a little bit extravagant and LAMIST
I’m aware I said something to the same effect but mine wasn’t as unprompted as his as DVa asked my alignment

tbh this makes me think you said that with the intent of trying to look townie
(ie you're approaching this as - someone saying this is scummy, but not when *I* do it! - kinda feels like you think actually saying like this is scummy and feel the need to defend saying it yourself; tbh you saying something along these lines was long enough ago that idk if anybody would have brought it up here)

[Irrelephant11]

Heal because

if not i dont' have a solid read on you really; i'm *slightly* tending town but i'm having trouble telling whether or not that's stemming from thinking you make sense

oh and the reason this is a good reason to townread skitter is because in a recent game we lost together (to scum!nsg) I pointed out postgame that skitter couldn't catch scum!nsg because nsg was being logical and making sense, even though the "making sense" was more indicative of nsg's scum agenda than of her being town

skitter being self-reflective about "oh no am I doing that thing irrelephant pointed out?" in a game I'm not in (no incentive to callback to our previous conversation for my sake) is towny

[Irrelephant11]

I think yuriko healing tesxx on like page 2 was partner-indicative, btw, I'm not just pulling yuriko+nm out of nowhere or just based on activity

[skitter30]

i mean tbf it's a blindspot that i know i have that i've acknowledged before having that convo with you (it's how i lost a couple of towngames about a year ago that i'm still a little annoyed about)

but yeah i was thinking about it there because of the ending of taz mafia which happened after this game started

[Irrelephant11]

right the timing was relevant
I just checked and our conversation & you saying it here were less than a week apart

[Irrelephant11]

I think the probabilities for dva & gamma's alignments rn are t/t --> s/t --------> s/s -----> t/s
skitter, agree/disagree?