A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[northsidegal]

1) The setup consists of 5 scum, 16 town, and 2 players who can be town, mafia, or third party.

five, maybe?

[Vecna]

Also, im assuming the way Mastina's role is described that we can rule out a 3rd party.

[THE MEME MEN]

Sho what are your top 5 reads of either alignment?

-rh

[THE MEME MEN]

Also, im assuming the way Mastina's role is described that we can rule out a 3rd party.

why?
-rh

[THE MEME MEN]

You win when the Town have been removed or nothing can prevent this from happening.

You might be right that this does imply no serial killer or killing third party that has to win over scum but it doesn't rule out third parties that might have separate win conditions (lyncher, jester, survivor, etc.)

-rh

[Vecna]

Read it, the disloyal description of the gladiate.

[Jingle]

Because either you or JJH was covering for the Mastina kill getting jailkept on N2.

Wrong logic.

Neither of us would need to 'cover'. The missing kill was equally likely to be on her or by her from your perspective.

And I have said all I need/want to say on that topic for the moment.

[Nero Cain]

Vecna who have you been targeting at night?

[Jingle]

Read it, the disloyal description of the gladiate.

It specifies success on 'Town' and failure on 'Mafia'. There is no mention of what happens on 3p. Implication, there is no 3p. Not hard confirmation, but positive likelihood.

[Vecna]

Except from the scum pov it couldve also been a doc-save (depending on whom the target was) or a roleblock on Mastina.

[THE MEME MEN]

I HAVE A GUILTY (Disloyal Gladiator): You may claim a guilty on any townie and will be gladiated with them. You may not claim a guilty on anyone mafia-aligned, your action will fail if you do so.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

it is kinda clumsy wording if there's a third party

would rc leave out the mechanics for a third party guilty claim if there was a third party?

-rh

[Vecna]

Vecna who have you been targeting at night?

Ive already claimed this. If a town stopped the kill during this night, it wasnt me.

[Nero Cain]

You may claim a guilty on any townie

So I'm assuming that a potential 3p would work just like a claimed guilty on mafia and it wouldn't happen.

[Vecna]

N1 jailkeep on Kuroi slot, N2 and N3 on Mastina

[Nero Cain]

Vecna who have you been targeting at night?

Ive already claimed this. If a town stopped the kill during this night, it wasnt me.

Well claim it again, im not gonna dig through your iso to find it.

[Vecna]

And yes, you can clearly see that my view on whether to lynch Mastina or not drastically changed after N2. I figured scum would have had to be pretty dumb to let Mastina do their kill, but seeing how her role worked, letting her slot take all the risks makes a bit more sense.

[Nero Cain]

Why did your view on Mastina change on after n2?

[Vecna]

Also, Im afraid I have to feel that there is a very decent likelyhood that scum did in fact try to make NR look really good by bussing Mastina hard. Either that, or scum really went full-out to make it look that way (although NR herself sure helped them a LOT then).

[THE MEME MEN]

Vecna who are your top 5 reads, of either alignment?

-rh

[Jingle]

Can 2/3 of the voting players unvote and have jj lock a single vote in place?

Thanks.

[Jingle]

Hell he can even lock a vote on me, I just want to prove his role works as advertised without shooting us in the foot more than necessary.

[Vecna]

Why did your view on Mastina change on after n2?

Because my jailkeep on her coincided with the no kill? Followed by a massive tunnel on the slot? I interpreted it as most likely scum trying to desperately get rid of her slot. To which degree this still holds, and how many people were actually bussing the liability-role remains yet to be seen. Not sure whether Mastina would want to go all in on trying to make her teammates look good, because with that role that play would be rather obvious.

[Nero Cain]

JJ is a claimed deathproof or something.

[Lady Angel]

So......

@JJH @Jingle Your 'analysis' was wrong after all, and that means you were either so damn stupid or you're both scum with mastina and Porkens. I am your Judge, Jury and Executioner. What do you have to say for yourselves?

Have you ever considered that the reason we don't listen to you is because of posts like this?

On another note, Mastina's refusal to gladiate Nico combined with Nico's very adamant assertation that the gladiate would fail on her takes a whole new meaning now, huh?

[Jingle]

@Meme

Lady Angel
Shoshin
Northsidegal
Gamma Emerald
Aristophanes
Whemestar

From town to scum, roughly. Note, I have no strong feelings about any of these players and should probably fix that.