Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[DrewVa]

Sure but I'm not calling you scummy for it. Why does my misattributing something to you make you angry?

I’m not suggesting you did and why do you think it made me “angry”? I wasn’t angry. I didn’t view it as any kind of deliberate misrepping or anything. I just wanted to be clear.

[DrewVa]

Not comfortable with Hebi just sheeping people.
Hebi, whyyy

I have similar thoughts, but she’s actively bringing up that she’s just sheeping in a kill heavy game, so that’s kind of lean townie to me

I’ve been townreading her, ever since she referenced that Wisdom game. That read townie to me.

[DrewVa]

If I was a foxy lil bitch I'd definately want to do Alonzo...

???

[ruru]

votecount

With 26 alive it takes 14 to lynch.

Clemency (9):	Fortian (830),	pinturicchio (1599),	RCEnigma (1601),	Wisdom (1650),	davesaz (1658),	BrightEyedFish (1731),	Alchemist21 (1750),	Tails (1913),	BuJaber (2022),
BuJaber (5):	DrippingGoofball (609),	profii (1142),	Thor665 (1438),	Varsoon (1452),	Nero Cain (2147),
Tails (3):	CheekyTeeky (2070),	DrewVa (2120),	hebichan (2122),
Flavor Leaf (2):	Malakitty (1178),	Creature (1921),
profii (1):	Reasonably Rational (893),
Nero Cain (1):	Gamma Emerald (1231),
Gamma Emerald (1):	Alonzo (1815),
Creature (1):	Flavor Leaf (2030),
Not voting (3):	Toogeloo,	Clemency (1442),	Amzela (1827),

(expired on 2018-12-04 02:30:00) remain.

[DrewVa]

How is activity AI Nero? Also I've posted more than at least 50% of this game. I literally said I was VLAish for the first week in signups before BuJaber kept harping on about my lack of activity and I'm still pretty busy but keeping up when I can.

The only other thing you scumread me for is "going with the flow" which I've pointed out is founded on your lack of info at that point. Unlike Tails I don’t think you're scum because I expect you to make these erm interesting uninformed pushes plus I'm not going to pin cheating on Majiffy's rep out.

If you're busy I'm sorry. But people like nancy were meta reading you based on activity and that made no sense to me. I'm calling out shitty reasons.

I was townreading her based on her play here, which seems similar to me in Overkill 1. Obviously, you disagree.

[DrewVa]

But also I am actively pushing for a tails lynch, please lynch tails.

Reg and I have a pretty decent townread on Tails. A big part of it is the way he responded to my questioning of him earlier in the game. Can explain more when not at work if required.

I would feel more confident in that if you’d ISO him in Overkill 1. I based my vote, on the metacheck I did on a couple of his towngames and another scumgame.

[davesaz]

If anyone would like to make a better case than the one we have on Clemency (Chick) you're running out of time to do it. A game this big doesn't usually turn on a dime.
I have seen practically nothing given in terms of concrete reasons for any of the other wagons. If something was stated then it's not getting repeated in the way that a town-led case should be.

[Reasonably Rational]

Not comfortable with Hebi just sheeping people.
Hebi, whyyy

I have similar thoughts, but she’s actively bringing up that she’s just sheeping in a kill heavy game, so that’s kind of lean townie to me

I’ve been townreading her, ever since she referenced that Wisdom game. That read townie to me.

You keep saying that, but it's an incredible weak indicator either way; definitely not enough to base a read on.

-Cerb

[Tails]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

[hebichan]

Not comfortable with Hebi just sheeping people.
Hebi, whyyy

I have similar thoughts, but she’s actively bringing up that she’s just sheeping in a kill heavy game, so that’s kind of lean townie to me

I’ve been townreading her, ever since she referenced that Wisdom game. That read townie to me.

You keep saying that, but it's an incredible weak indicator either way; definitely not enough to base a read on.

-Cerb

I agree.

Also on why tails. Still the same.

I dont like the "I dare you" attitude he has on right now and I don't think its town aligned.

[Tails]

I just don't like the strongman attitude from tails here. Could be in his range, I guess. But I've seen a lot of things like "earned the right to live today" come from scum trying to position themselves as strong town voices.

Been scumreading him for awhile.

Okay, I just looked up a couple of Tails’ town games and one scum game and I think you may be right.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=26783

Tails’ town game

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=26783

Tails’ scum game.

So...I only have 5 games that I've played with this alt. The last few have been a year apart, but that doesn't matter except to say that between Detective Conan, Jungle Republic, and now, I've kinda forgotten how I tend to play with this hydra. I just follow the keyword: trolly, and go from there.
But still, it shouldn't be that difficult to look at

all

my games. And if you did so, you know who my main is. And if you actually did due diligence and looked there, your argument falls apart in 2 seconds.

VOTE: Tails

He is only agressive like this in his scum games, based on my meta check.

All that to say this, an actual meta check would show that I tend to get aggressive with my pushes. And I don't think I've been anywhere near as aggressive as last game. And in both of these games, my facade has slipped more often than earlier games.

[Tails]

scum!Thor aggressively told me, he wanted me to “die in a fire”, in Overkill 1, so his push on me in that game reads similar to Tails’ in this one.

You got me. I'm a Thor alt.

It’s the kind of over the top kind of thing, that more often than not, tends to come from scum.

Town is usually more like I’m currently scumreading you based on X, give me some reason why should townread you, or words to that effect. Town wants to sort, scum wants to confibias.

Saying that you want a slot to die isn't all that unusual. Or even that you wouldn't mind a slot dying. Speaking of, Nero just said the same thing, and I don't see you getting up in arms there.

[pinturicchio]

Oh are we trying to lynch me again? That's fun. Good luck with that.

But sure, lynch me. This game was unpleasant with 5 players spamming the other 21 of us into prod dodge play and I don't see my enjoyment of it increasing any time soon

I dont like the "I dare you" attitude he has on right now and I don't think its town aligned.

I think I didn't see you saying something about Majiffy's "I dare you" attitude, which was much more clear than Tails'.

[Tails]

For the record,

I kinda want to vig Nero and have no opinion on DGB. So wouldn't mind lynching either one, although I think there are better options.

Why does Tails want to lynch a slot, he has “no opinion on”. This post strikes me as scummy. It reads like he’s putting Nero and DGB on notice but not wanting to vote either.

It's called consolidating lynches. They're not my first options, but I wouldn't mind lynching either if need be.

I was sheeping earlier in the day just because. Why didn't you say anything then?

[Tails]

I dont like the "I dare you" attitude he has on right now and I don't think its town aligned.

First, I don't think I'm daring anyone to do anything.
Second, why would that be a scum indicator and not a personality one?

[Tails]

Also, Nancy scumreading me is hilarious. What is that? 3 for 3?

[DrewVa]

Not comfortable with Hebi just sheeping people.
Hebi, whyyy

I have similar thoughts, but she’s actively bringing up that she’s just sheeping in a kill heavy game, so that’s kind of lean townie to me

I’ve been townreading her, ever since she referenced that Wisdom game. That read townie to me.

You keep saying that, but it's an incredible weak indicator either way; definitely not enough to base a read on.

-Cerb

Well, I can also vouch for what she’s said about sheeping. The only game I’ve played with scum!Hebi was in Minuet and in her very first post, she voted her scum partner Mastina for making an fake IC claim. Hers was the only vote on that slot.

[DrewVa]

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=25722

VOTE: Mastina

There's no way this is a real claim.

Why the hell would you even claim it day one.

As for people voting me, I'm not buddying, I'm trying to sort by the meta I remember. Wisdom seems off, most everyone else including keade and grapes seem very similar to past games I have played with them.

Actually, it was her 5th post but it was very suspicious how she immediately disbelieved her claim.

@Cerb

[DrewVa]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

[DrewVa]

I just don't like the strongman attitude from tails here. Could be in his range, I guess. But I've seen a lot of things like "earned the right to live today" come from scum trying to position themselves as strong town voices.

Been scumreading him for awhile.

Okay, I just looked up a couple of Tails’ town games and one scum game and I think you may be right.

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=26783

Tails’ town game

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=26783

Tails’ scum game.

So...I only have 5 games that I've played with this alt. The last few have been a year apart, but that doesn't matter except to say that between Detective Conan, Jungle Republic, and now, I've kinda forgotten how I tend to play with this hydra. I just follow the keyword: trolly, and go from there.
But still, it shouldn't be that difficult to look at

all

my games. And if you did so, you know who my main is. And if you actually did due diligence and looked there, your argument falls apart in 2 seconds.

VOTE: Tails

He is only agressive like this in his scum games, based on my meta check.

All that to say this, an actual meta check would show that I tend to get aggressive with my pushes. And I don't think I've been anywhere near as aggressive as last game. And in both of these games, my facade has slipped more often than earlier games.

No, I have no idea who your main is. Tell me. Have I played with you before Overkill 1?

[Tails]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

Sounds like your problem. Not mine.

Right now all I'm seeing is the same thing I saw with Wisdom and RR. You attack until they either back off or change their mind.

[Tails]

No, I have no idea who your main is. Tell me. Have I played with you before Overkill 1?

I have no idea. That would involve looking through all my games, and I don't want to do the work.
As for who I am, if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious. Otherwise, I'm going to play as is. If I wanted to play as my main, I would have signed up under that account.

[DrewVa]

scum!Thor aggressively told me, he wanted me to “die in a fire”, in Overkill 1, so his push on me in that game reads similar to Tails’ in this one.

You got me. I'm a Thor alt.

It’s the kind of over the top kind of thing, that more often than not, tends to come from scum.

Town is usually more like I’m currently scumreading you based on X, give me some reason why should townread you, or words to that effect. Town wants to sort, scum wants to confibias.

Saying that you want a slot to die isn't all that unusual. Or even that you wouldn't mind a slot dying. Speaking of, Nero just said the same thing, and I don't see you getting up in arms there.

I neve said you were a Thor alt, just pointing out that he did something very similar as scum in Overkill 1. As for Nero, how is what he said similar to you specifically calling for my slot specifically to die? I also think Nero is town here based on meta. I obviously don’t townread you. I think if you were town here, you would be sincerely attempting to sort me, rather than calling for my death. Why aren’t you even trying to do that at all? All I see is you confibiasing on me and when I ask you about my recent posting, you intentionally misrep what I said and imply I’m saying something else entirely.

[BuJaber]

Amuse me nancy, since a huge portion of your posts have the words "based on meta".

How do you go about determining someone's meta? Your methodology?

[Tails]

You insinuated that I couldn't possibly have read to still have a scum read on you after your attack on RR. Not only did I call bull crap on that, I also pointed out the post that really bugged me and led me to believe that you were manipulating the town's emotions in your favor.