Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[DrewVa]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

Sounds like your problem. Not mine.

Right now all I'm seeing is the same thing I saw with Wisdom and RR. You attack until they either back off or change their mind.

Really? You actually think they’re both going to either back off or change their read on me, because according to you, I’m “attacking” them? Do you have any idea how scummy this is coming accross? You must have a very low opinion of both of them, if you really believe that experienced players with strong personalities like them, would just roll over like that. Unfreakingbelievable.

[DrewVa]

if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious.

You're a hydra of RadiantCowbells and Titus! I knew it all along! -D

[Tails]

All I'm seeing is that whenever anyone thinks you're scum, you either call them scum or a horrible person. You continue to attack them until they back off.
And when I just pointed that out, you then try to turn the subject around again by telling me I must have a low opinion of those you attacked. You seriously just blamed the victims!
I said, "Here's this pattern of behavior from you." Your response is "Well, then you must think very little of them then." Like, how does B come from C?

[DrewVa]

Amuse me nancy, since a huge portion of your posts have the words "based on meta".

How do you go about determining someone's meta? Your methodology?

I either base it on play - actual experience I’ve had playing with them or from meta checks. I did one on a recent scumgame of yours and I didn’t find any connection to it - either with this game or Overkill 1.

It obviously isn’t foolproof, because it’s seems pretty likely that I was wrong about Majiffy, so I use it mostly, to supplement my reads, not as a replacement for them. My most accurate meta reads are based on actual games I’ve had with the designated player. Those types of checks tend to bet the most reliable.

[pinturicchio]

As for who I am, if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious. Otherwise, I'm going to play as is. If I wanted to play as my main, I would have signed up under that account.

If I'm correct, it took me five minutes, and I'm not a meta reader at all

[Tails]

One of your newest arguments is that I'm not even trying to sort you. But this is really code for "Stop scum reading me and back off!". It always comes back around to someone thinks you're scum, and you either have to say they're scum, an a-hole, not reading, or incapable of reading you. There might be another excuse I missed, but still. Your focus this game has been on what other people think of you and minimizing the damage of scum reads. And that means tearing through the thread like a tornado when doubt on you comes into play.

[Tails]

@pint: Right?! And yet Nancy just said she did a meta dive and couldn't find it at all. Makes me think she just took the 2 most recent non-Overkill games, threw them up, then stated the pre-decided interpretation.

[pinturicchio]

@pint: Right?! And yet Nancy just said she did a meta dive and couldn't find it at all. Makes me think she just took the 2 most recent non-Overkill games, threw them up, then stated the pre-decided interpretation.

That's what I implied, yes

[Tails]

Eh.
I want more Clem votes. I'd like a lynch before Friday.

[DrewVa]

All I'm seeing is that whenever anyone thinks you're scum, you either call them scum or a horrible person. You continue to attack them until they back off.
And when I just pointed that out, you then try to turn the subject around again by telling me I must have a low opinion of those you attacked. You seriously just blamed the victims!
I said, "Here's this pattern of behavior from you." Your response is "Well, then you must think very little of them then." Like, how does B come from C?

You obviously must, because if what you’re suggesting is to be believed , these experienced players, are just going to be this easily manipulated. Do you honestly believe this?, because I really don’t believe you do. And it’s posts like this one, is why I think you’re scum here. Wisdom has never played with scum!me but RR has - twice. I’ve only had 3 scumgames on this site - 5 in total but I’ve somehow managed to pull the wool over players’ eyes with a great deal more experience than me? I almost think you might be trolling me with this now.

[Tails]

@pint: Watch out! She might call you scum next!

[DrewVa]

One of your newest arguments is that I'm not even trying to sort you. But this is really code for "Stop scum reading me and back off!". It always comes back around to someone thinks you're scum, and you either have to say they're scum, an a-hole, not reading, or incapable of reading you. There might be another excuse I missed, but still. Your focus this game has been on what other people think of you and minimizing the damage of scum reads. And that means tearing through the thread like a tornado when doubt on you comes into play.

Nothing you’ve been saying is changing my mind on you, because you’re clearly not trying to sort me. Convince me otherwise and I’ll re-evaluate my read on you.

[DrewVa]

@pint: Watch out! She might call you scum next!

Or you could just try to read my posts without confibiasing me. Just a thought.

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: Malakitty
Creature
DrewVa
Alonzo
Alchemist21
RCEnigma
BuJaber
Clemency
Wisdom
CheekyTeeky
pinturicchio
Fortian
Amzela

Does this have some effect?

[DrewVa]

As for who I am, if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious. Otherwise, I'm going to play as is. If I wanted to play as my main, I would have signed up under that account.

If I'm correct, it took me five minutes, and I'm not a meta reader at all

So tell me then. I can do a metacheck on the main and test my results.

[Gamma Emerald]

I’m gonna OMGUS Creature.

VOTE: Creature

I don’t think that vote comes from townCreature.

I claim masons with Creature

[pinturicchio]

As for who I am, if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious. Otherwise, I'm going to play as is. If I wanted to play as my main, I would have signed up under that account.

If I'm correct, it took me five minutes, and I'm not a meta reader at all

So tell me then. I can do a metacheck on the main and test my results.

That's like telling you a secret in front of the person who told me not to tell anyone.
If he doesn't explicitly say it, why would I?

[DrewVa]

if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious.

You're a hydra of RadiantCowbells and Titus! I knew it all along! -D

I know you’re joking here, because I actually know the name of that hydra and it’s not Tails. Thanks for the laugh though. <3

[RCEnigma]

Lol I'd vig Gamma for that alone.

[DrewVa]

As for who I am, if you actually meta'd this alt, it's pretty obvious. Otherwise, I'm going to play as is. If I wanted to play as my main, I would have signed up under that account.

If I'm correct, it took me five minutes, and I'm not a meta reader at all

So tell me then. I can do a metacheck on the main and test my results.

That's like telling you a secret in front of the person who told me not to tell anyone.
If he doesn't explicitly say it, why would I?

Okay fine but I have no idea who is alt is but I’ll respect this. Anyway, if I’ve never played with him before, it probably doesn’t really matter anyway.

[Gamma Emerald]

Omfg. Read. The. Game.

votecount

With 26 alive it takes 14 to lynch.

DrippingGoofball (6):	davesaz (56),	CheekyTeeky (992),	BrightEyedFish (1089),	RCEnigma (1098),	pinturicchio (1099),	DrewVa (1121),
RCEnigma (3):	Thor665 (61),	BuJaber (262),	Tails (477),
BuJaber (3):	DrippingGoofball (609),	Varsoon (614),	Majiffy (631),
Majiffy (3):	Malakitty (42),	Wisdom (1078),	hebichan (1083),
BrightEyedFish (1):	Alchemist21 (386),
CheekyTeeky (1):	Alonzo (440),
Chickadee (1):	Fortian (830),
Reasonably Rational (1):	profii (885),
profii (1):	Reasonably Rational (893),
Alonzo (1):	Gamma Emerald (897),
Thor665 (1):	Amzela (1044),
Creature (1):	Chickadee (1090),
Not voting (3):	Creature,	Toogeloo,	Flavor Leaf (416),

(expired on 2018-12-04 02:30:00) remain.

I'm wondering about the timing of the tailend of DGB's wagon. Possible counter to Majiffy's wagon picking up momentum. Hmm.

Ok so after digging through a few DGB games...

Town:

Mini 2020 Starts off similar to here but gets invested in sorting a few scum reads also. Intent becomes clearer as the game progresses.

Transformers Mafia Similar to here but we're again missing a "scum detected" post. Looks like DGB lurked themselves dead.

Mini 619 - House Mafia Constantly softs that they are a PR. Much more active and engaged, was the lylo mislynch.

Scum:

Steven Universe 2 Much more question orientated vs stating opinions. Phrases Town reads differently. Looks nothing like the other town games.

I think it's likely this game is more in line with DGB's town meta. I see they are often mislynched/left until lylo as town. Though we're missing the certain aggressive tunnels I saw in a couple of town games, I think the attitude of nonchalance is stil strongly town/3p indicative here.

VOTE: Thor

I actually checked over the transformers game because I remembered being there and didn’t remember DGB, and I can kinda see why, they didn’t post a whole lot or stay in for long but they had a greater posts per day than here and with the speed of that game I see it as rather incriminating given my own experience layered on top of that.
VOTE: DrippingGoofball

[Tails]

One of your newest arguments is that I'm not even trying to sort you. But this is really code for "Stop scum reading me and back off!". It always comes back around to someone thinks you're scum, and you either have to say they're scum, an a-hole, not reading, or incapable of reading you. There might be another excuse I missed, but still. Your focus this game has been on what other people think of you and minimizing the damage of scum reads. And that means tearing through the thread like a tornado when doubt on you comes into play.

Nothing you’ve been saying is changing my mind on you, because you’re clearly not trying to sort me. Convince me otherwise and I’ll re-evaluate my read on you.

I could, but we both know this is just empty phrasing to justify your supposed scum read on my slot.

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm a hungry bear, he's a salmon swimming upstream.

How am I even LHF (if that’s what this means)?

[RCEnigma]

Can we get chickadee today and DGB tomorrow? If I need the puppy dog eyes ok but...

[DrewVa]

You insinuated that I couldn't possibly have read to still have a scum read on you after your attack on RR. Not only did I call bull crap on that, I also pointed out the post that really bugged me and led me to believe that you were manipulating the town's emotions in your favor.

I asked you specifically what your opinion of my posts since then. I’m still waiting for you to answer that.