Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[BrightEyedFish]

Eh.
I want more Clem votes. I'd like a lynch before Friday.

I'm with Tails here. Weekends typically have less activity and we are getting into crunch time. We need to lynch Clem before we get nothing out of these 89 Day 1 pages. I also support a Jaber wagon but barring a new revelation I will not switch my vote to Jaber unless it somehow becomes the leading wagon before the deadline.

[Tails]

Hey Drew! Are you going to do something useful with your vote, or are you going to continue to whine about how I'll never town read you?

[Tails]

I'd also like Creature and RR to move onto a wagon that's going to happen today.

[Tails]

Going to try to post a few times tonight. Would really like a lynch to happen within the next 24 hours. I want to roll into work on Monday with a brand new day to interact with and not have to worry about anything I might have missed during the weekend.

[Tails]

Also, waiting on the thread to open during any of the 3 or 4 days I have to be active would be a drag.

[Reasonably Rational]

All I'm seeing is that whenever anyone thinks you're scum, you either call them scum or a horrible person. You continue to attack them until they back off.
And when I just pointed that out, you then try to turn the subject around again by telling me I must have a low opinion of those you attacked. You seriously just blamed the victims!
I said, "Here's this pattern of behavior from you." Your response is "Well, then you must think very little of them then." Like, how does B come from C?

You obviously must, because if what you’re suggesting is to be believed , these experienced players, are just going to be this easily manipulated. Do you honestly believe this?, because I really don’t believe you do. And it’s posts like this one, is why I think you’re scum here. Wisdom has never played with scum!me but RR has - twice. I’ve only had 3 scumgames on this site - 5 in total but I’ve somehow managed to pull the wool over players’ eyes with a great deal more experience than me? I almost think you might be trolling me with this now.

This statement that its ridiculous thst you've managed to pull the wool over experienced players eyes implies that you're being townread by us, and are using that fact as a reason why others should be townreading you, when in fact we aren't townreading you. We resolved the earlier situation, but that just means we stopped weighting that interaction one way or the other. I've seen nothing outside of your scum range in your play today, and so have no reason to townread you.

@Tail: won't be happening except to ensure we don't no lynch. Far more informative to me to keep that extra vote open on all the wagons to see how people move around, and unlike Overkill 1 we've basically failed at voting like normal people instead of ourselves, so fuck it.

-Cerb

[Thor665]

I'm not wild about it and not confident that it'll flip scum.
If it happens to be the lynch, I'm alright with it as I don't think Clem's a slot I'd argue is town or even worth keeping alive and plenty of people have had interactions there so it's not the worst green flip ever, it just doesn't excite me and I tend to avoid wagons/flips that don't excite me.

Okay, sounded a bit like you were decrying it.

Dude yeah that's it. It's more the fact that regardless of how the slot flips, I'll shrug. If it's town I'll be annoyed, but I'm not invested in it one way or the other enough that I'll have to reevaluate the game or be angry at everyone. If it's scum, yay, but i don't even really see the flip giving loads of associatives to solve the game with or anything. So yeah, not exciting; even less so when they're just...not fighting back, and not playing the game.

If you feel this way I can think o flots of proactive things you could have and should have been doing for days, and I think you can too. Should it worry me that you aren't? It would have been pro town if you had, so lack of town play...?

So...you're saying I need to work harder to get myself killed?

If you're town? Hell yeah.

So you're saying that your town reads voting DGB makes her town?

If you were being objective I have no idea how you come to this conclusion hence you're twisting Smurf.

Who do you think are the scumbuddies who tried to to weigh down the DGB wagon to shift it off their buddy?
Tails has a very reasonable point against you even if you don't agree with it.

Tails wagon is dreck.

[Thor665]

Honestly this is starting to get pretty egregiously bad. HE's setting up a bunch of leading questions to shade wisdom for no real benefit here.

I'm not askign any leading questions.
I *AM* setting up a situation that shows Wisdom is being silly.
Why is that shading if it's true?
And if it's not true - how is what I'm saying not true?

@Hebichan

It's not true implying that wisdom is scum and hes scaredd of his scum buddies. That's an opinion till he flips.

You call him scum several times without voting him, that's shading my dude.

I actually am pretty sure I've only called him scum by joke parroting his silly question to me.
Am I wrong in that recollection?
Don't think that counts as 'several times'.
So whassup?

@Hebichan

[Reasonably Rational]

You are correct Thor, I chose to not invest the time required to make even a semblance of an attempt at solving the game after the first 96 hours of this day phase or so. You're welcome to speculate about what that means in terms of my alignment.

-Cerb

[Thor665]

I'm going to go with 'scummy'.

[RCEnigma]

Who do you think are the scumbuddies who tried to to weigh down the DGB wagon to shift it off their buddy?
Tails has a very reasonable point against you even if you don't agree with it.

This is actually an interesting take, but would be better look into post flips rather than before. Less room for wifom.

[Gamma Emerald]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

OK idr the whole situation with this so could someone remind me why Tails and DrawVa are going at it? I have thoughts that could affect my existing reads so this is pretty important

[ruru]

votecount

With 26 alive it takes 14 to lynch.

Clemency (9):	Fortian (830),	pinturicchio (1599),	RCEnigma (1601),	Wisdom (1650),	davesaz (1658),	BrightEyedFish (1731),	Alchemist21 (1750),	Tails (1913),	BuJaber (2022),
BuJaber (5):	DrippingGoofball (609),	profii (1142),	Thor665 (1438),	Varsoon (1452),	Nero Cain (2147),
Tails (3):	CheekyTeeky (2070),	DrewVa (2120),	hebichan (2122),
Flavor Leaf (2):	Malakitty (1178),	Creature (1921),
profii (1):	Reasonably Rational (893),
Gamma Emerald (1):	Alonzo (1815),
Creature (1):	Flavor Leaf (2030),
DrippingGoofball (1):	Gamma Emerald (2195),
Not voting (3):	Toogeloo,	Clemency (1442),	Amzela (1827),

(expired on 2018-12-04 02:30:00) remain.

[pinturicchio]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

OK idr the whole situation with this so could someone remind me why Tails and DrawVa are going at it? I have thoughts that could affect my existing reads so this is pretty important

If it is pretty important, wouldn't it be the correct thing to do it yourself?

[RCEnigma]

Tails scumread Nancy.
Nancy said it was based on nothing.
Nancy added 3 games as a meta read to scumread Tails.
Tails said it's wrong.

All I've gathered but to be fair I've turned out of Drewva's head to heads at this point.

[Alonzo]

vote:clemency

[pinturicchio]

vote:clemency

Use the vote tag please

[Alonzo]

VOTE: clemency

Quiet you

[Thor665]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

OK idr the whole situation with this so could someone remind me why Tails and DrawVa are going at it? I have thoughts that could affect my existing reads so this is pretty important

The short answer is;
Tails got active/aggressive.
DrewVa claimed to do meta that showed that active/aggressive Tails = scum Tails.
Tails claimed this is utter BS meta, and pointed out that due to limited games he has and how often he's outed his main this is easy to show as BS meta (paired with claims that he plays different than his main)
DrewVa instead of pointing out the logical plot hole I note above, doubles down on the derp initial claim, and thus shows fairly storng indication that her meta was trash.
Tails and her escalate into a slap fight.

I think Tails looks pretty obv. town.
DrewVa I'd say is lynch worthy, but am saying so based off quality of play rather than clear scum intent in behavior.

[Gamma Emerald]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

OK idr the whole situation with this so could someone remind me why Tails and DrawVa are going at it? I have thoughts that could affect my existing reads so this is pretty important

If it is pretty important, wouldn't it be the correct thing to do it yourself?

The thread is pretty long so I don’t care to go back if someone can help me now
Thanks RCE btw

[Gamma Emerald]

His not changing his read on me is concerning

Then do something to change my mind.

I have, that’s at least a part of why I’m suspicious of you

OK idr the whole situation with this so could someone remind me why Tails and DrawVa are going at it? I have thoughts that could affect my existing reads so this is pretty important

The short answer is;
Tails got active/aggressive.
DrewVa claimed to do meta that showed that active/aggressive Tails = scum Tails.
Tails claimed this is utter BS meta, and pointed out that due to limited games he has and how often he's outed his main this is easy to show as BS meta (paired with claims that he plays different than his main)
DrewVa instead of pointing out the logical plot hole I note above, doubles down on the derp initial claim, and thus shows fairly storng indication that her meta was trash.
Tails and her escalate into a slap fight.

I think Tails looks pretty obv. town.
DrewVa I'd say is lynch worthy, but am saying so based off quality of play rather than clear scum intent in behavior.

This also helps

[Thor665]

It happened like in the last few pages...

[profii]

Clemency is chick? People were starting the wagon on chick for not looking a great deal beyond Creature, right? Is that still the basis of the wagon or has clemency scummed it up further?

(I'm about 20 pages behind and at work, hopefully i'll get some time to work on this game tonight)

[Thor665]

Clemency has aggressive empty posted.

C'mon guys, I'm self admitted skipping and skimming, why am I answering these things?

[Thor665]

Like, literally both Gamma and Proffi could have answered their own questions with 1 minute of skimming and the ISO feature.