Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2450 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:07 am

Cerb is on the level.

DrewVa · Post Post #2451 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:07 am

In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled

He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?

RCEnigma · Post Post #2452 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:07 am

In post 2449, Reasonably Rational wrote:No. It's not a test of anything. The only test of his claim is him actually voting someone prior to hammer, which he won't do.

-Cerb

This all the way. We arent gambling on toogs alignment like that.

RCEnigma · Post Post #2453 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:08 am

Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.

DrewVa · Post Post #2454 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:08 am

In post 2449, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2446, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2444, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2439, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2417, Fortian wrote:Think the selfhammer attempt is a scum claim. Can someone vote Clemency in case Hebis misspelling vote doesn't count so we can actually move on here please. Also DV gets no credit for this scum lynch, dudes still a noob.
No, we should wait until the vote count.
It’s very important to let Toog hammer
. Trust me on this, A50 will count Hebi’s vote but sure on the extremely unlikely chance that I’m wrong about this.
Elaborate?

I need a convincing answer in the next 9 minutes or I'll be hammering.

-Cerb
Don’t you think it important to verify Toogeloo’s role?
No. It's not a test of anything. The only test of his claim is him actually voting someone prior to hammer, which he won't do.

-Cerb

Well, he would be modkilled in that case.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2455 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:09 am

In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?

How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2456 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:09 am

In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.

Except priest

RCEnigma · Post Post #2457 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:10 am

I'm not familiar with priest.

DrewVa · Post Post #2458 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:11 am

In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.

Okay, maybe I’m confused then, because in Overkill 1, people wanted to confirm Flicker’s role by doing that iirc?

DrewVa · Post Post #2459 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:12 am

In post 2456, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.
Except priest

Maybe, I’m mixing up actor and priest?

DrewVa · Post Post #2460 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:14 am

In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.

Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #2461 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:14 am

In post 2458, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.
Okay, maybe I’m confused then, because in Overkill 1, people wanted to confirm Flicker’s role by doing that iirc?

1) Confirming flickers role was stupid there, because all you could do was confirm the slot had that modifier, but not it's alignment or if it had any additional abilities.
2) Flickers role and toog's role's are different. That part of Flickers role WAS confirmable, because they were UNABLE to hammer(which, btw RCEnigma, is what priest is); Toog is ONLY able to hammer, and WILL BE MODKILLED IF THEY VOTE PRIOR TO HAMMER. That means we can't test the thing they are unable to do, which is what we were trying to do with Flicker in Overkill 1.

-Cerb

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2462 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:15 am

In post 2459, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2456, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.
Except priest
Maybe, I’m mixing up actor and priest?

Yeah
The main thing that I think is making it weird is the policy change from “not counted” to “modkilled if transgressed”

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #2463 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:15 am

In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/

How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb

DrewVa · Post Post #2464 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:17 am

In post 2438, DrippingGoofball wrote:GammaEmerald posts a lot about himself. Defensive?

What was the "joke claim?"

I’m townreading both Gamma and Creature. Creature testing out wagons, is town indicative for him.

DrewVa · Post Post #2465 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:18 am

In post 2463, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/
How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb

He’s an actor, right? So, hammering doesn’t confirm like with priest?

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #2466 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:20 am

In post 2465, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2463, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/
How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb
He’s an actor, right? So, hammering doesn’t confirm like with priest?

You're asking me questions. I'm not here to explain this to you. I'm here to figure out why/how you believed what you believed.

-Cerb

DrewVa · Post Post #2467 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:21 am

In post 2462, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2459, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2456, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.
Except priest
Maybe, I’m mixing up actor and priest?
Yeah
The main thing that I think is making it weird is the policy change from “not counted” to “modkilled if transgressed”

OIC, so Flicker who was priest would have got modkilled for hammering then?

Gamma Emerald · Post Post #2468 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:22 am

In post 2467, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2462, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2459, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2456, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.
Except priest
Maybe, I’m mixing up actor and priest?
Yeah
The main thing that I think is making it weird is the policy change from “not counted” to “modkilled if transgressed”
OIC, so Flicker who was priest would have got modkilled for hammering then?

No, we were able to prove Flicker’s role BECAUSE he wouldn’t be modkilled.
Since casting an invalid vote results in modkilled here Actor/Priest can’t be proven the same way.

DrewVa · Post Post #2469 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:24 am

In post 2466, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2465, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2463, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/
How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb
He’s an actor, right? So, hammering doesn’t confirm like with priest?
You're asking me questions. I'm not here to explain this to you. I'm here to figure out why/how you believed what you believed.

-Cerb

I obviously need those questions answered first.

DrewVa · Post Post #2470 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:25 am

In post 2468, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2467, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2462, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2459, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2456, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2453, RCEnigma wrote:Toog hammering doesn't matter, he can be any role any alignment and hammer.
Except priest
Maybe, I’m mixing up actor and priest?
Yeah
The main thing that I think is making it weird is the policy change from “not counted” to “modkilled if transgressed”
OIC, so Flicker who was priest would have got modkilled for hammering then?
No, we were able to prove Flicker’s role BECAUSE he wouldn’t be modkilled.
Since casting an invalid vote results in modkilled here Actor/Priest can’t be proven the same way.

Okay thanks for clarifying that.

Reasonably Rational · Post Post #2471 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:27 am

In post 2469, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2466, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2465, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2463, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/
How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb
He’s an actor, right? So, hammering doesn’t confirm like with priest?
You're asking me questions. I'm not here to explain this to you. I'm here to figure out why/how you believed what you believed.

-Cerb
I obviously need those questions answered first.

If you didn't know the answer to those questions, how did you have such certainty that it was VERY IMPORTANT that the hammer be saved for Toog?

-Cerb

DrewVa · Post Post #2472 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:31 am

In post 2471, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2469, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2466, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2465, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2463, Reasonably Rational wrote:
In post 2460, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2455, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2451, DrewVa wrote:
In post 2448, Gamma Emerald wrote:How do you verify Toog without him getting modkilled
He doesn’t, so long as he’s the hammer, if I’m understanding his role correctly.

I suppose it’s fine for now but whenever we can confirm a slot, it’s always a good thing, no?
How does that confirm him though? That just means he can cast the hammer vote, not that he can’t cast any other votes.
Well, I just thought hammering would confirm him. \_0_/
How do you arrive at that conclusion? Seriously. Tell me what you thought Toog's role was, and what line of reasoning led you to that conclusion.

-Cerb
He’s an actor, right? So, hammering doesn’t confirm like with priest?
You're asking me questions. I'm not here to explain this to you. I'm here to figure out why/how you believed what you believed.

-Cerb
I obviously need those questions answered first.
If you didn't know the answer to those questions, how did you have such certainty that it was VERY IMPORTANT that the hammer be saved for Toog?

-Cerb

I obviously believed it was and turns out I was wrong. You know, you could choose to work with me and be helpful like Gamma was. I think we’re on the same side here?

RCEnigma · Post Post #2473 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:43 am

Hmm not so fast.

pinturicchio · Post Post #2474 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 3:46 am

Oh hi.
If I don't make it through the night:
Townreads: Fortian, BuJaber, Varsoon, davesaz, Toogeloo, Tails
Townleans: RR, Alonzo, Gamma, Thor, BrownEyedGirl, RCE
Null: Creature, Alchemist, Cheeky, hebichan, FlavorLeaf, Amzela
Scumlean: DrewVa, Wisdom, Malakitty
Scumreads: profii, DrippingGoofball
Special offer: if Clem=scum, Nero=kill it with fire; if Clem=anything else, Nero=null

Byeeeeeeee