A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6


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Post Post #6600 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:39 pm

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So far all JJ has done is talk about how Mastina is town, naked voted Sky and OMGUS voted Gingie/Jingle.

Kuroi had already pointed this out but
In post 400, jjh927 wrote:
In post 375, Nero Cain wrote:
In post 371, jjh927 wrote:Not convinced it's actually towny looking content
what content is "not towny" looking? Let's ignore the fake dayvig, like if ppl want to town read me for that fine and if you don't then that's ok. I mean, I could argue "why in the world do you think a fake daykill is AI." but the fake daykill isn't the sum total of my content. So talk to me about it.
Nah I don't think you're scum; I just phrased "I don't know what's going on there" in a more loaded way in hope that people would jump in on the discussion
Is a hedge.

In post 557, jjh927 wrote:Wheme, you were in GSGDM. Do you think this vizzy looks the same because I really don't


I do think you popping up with an unorthodox scumread looks pretty bad for you though
This seems like his only scumhunting post so far.

As of he's calling all of Vax, Wheme and Skygazer scum.

Now he is naked voting Lady Angel.

There was a bunch of stuff about him trying to figure out Vecna's role or somthing weird like that.

He then hops on the Pork wagon.

Now he's voting Vecna b/c he believes its a fake post restriction.

Now he's voting Kuroi apparently just so Mastina uses her ability on him.

I mean holy shit this guy as 4 more pages to go but so far all I'm seeing is random vote hopping, he doesn't really seem to commit to his scum reads and not alot of scum hunting.
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Post Post #6601 (ISO) » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:42 pm

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VOTE: unvote
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Post Post #6602 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 12:32 am

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Had also wanted to say that his kinda saving grace is that he did vote Titus near EOD. Though I guess the other way you could look at it is he voted her when she was in no danger and thus it was distancing *shrugz*
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Post Post #6603 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:04 am

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In post 6505, Lady Angel wrote:2. Creature's claim was quite literally that Mastina's role had four As in her name or something like that. That is in no way, shape, or form a guilty and the only reason you can call it such is because of hindsight bias. Hell, my own role name has four As in it - am I scum, too?
mastina had four As in role name and one A in flavor.

Also does your role have four As?
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Post Post #6604 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:07 am

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In post 6540, northsidegal wrote:here's me catching jjh as scum on page 5, before i even knew about his meta. later on in the day i
did
look at his meta and it made things even more obvious.


i'm honestly getting kind of tired of talking so much about jjh and why he's town and i don't understand how or why people keep asking me about it.
jjh is outed?
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Post Post #6605 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:11 am

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In post 6512, Shoshin wrote:If it's 6 mafia, then it's Nico,
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, Nero, and one of Jingle, Gamma, or Lady Angel.
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Post Post #6606 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:54 am

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In post 6564, THE MEME MEN wrote:That along with the no lynch vote on eod 4? That's also suspect of jjh.
I would like you to expand on this if possible
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Post Post #6607 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 8:08 am

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In post 6603, Creature wrote:
In post 6505, Lady Angel wrote:2. Creature's claim was quite literally that Mastina's role had four As in her name or something like that. That is in no way, shape, or form a guilty and the only reason you can call it such is because of hindsight bias. Hell, my own role name has four As in it - am I scum, too?
mastina had four As in role name and one A in flavor.

Also does your role have four As?
So mine's the near opposite after checking the role PM - one A in role name and three As in flavour, for four total.

If you were to cop that, it would tell you nothing alignment-indicative, just that my role name has four As in it overall.
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Post Post #6608 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:04 am

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As of he's random voting Gamma.
In post 2037, jjh927 wrote:while I can see the argument for Nos scum I also can't accept it at all
hedges on Nos a bit here. This would be really important if Ari flips scum.

Now he's sheeping me on R&L.

Another naked vote on Titus.

Random vote on Wheme.

A kinda random vote on Gin. Like his argument was that Gin is scum that doesn't kill Mastina b/c Mastina town reads him. I said it was a leap.

He's back to voting Wheme b/c he believes Wheme is playing like he did as 3p.

Now he's voting Chick b/c it might "gain traction"

So begins the JJ/Nico sparring match.

The rest of this page (and prob the next 3) are mainly about him going apeshit on Nico. I guess its minorly important to mention that there was a no kill and in his mind that meant Nico's team targeted him.
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Post Post #6609 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:24 am

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It occurs to me that every piece of evidence for NR town has a completely rational alternative explanation, and all of the grey area setup spec items for me are based on/around that role.

I'm gone tonight, but as soon as jj
Za Warudo's and attempts to unvote
I'm going to vote there.
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Post Post #6610 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:27 am

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Also, Creature. Vecna is a good target for your ability. He's fullclaimed flavor and the number of A's in his role might be indicative. Can't think of anyone else off the top of my head, but I'll try to figure out if anyone elses claim could be corroborated.

Meme Men might have an outrageous number of A's? They certainly seem complicated enough to.
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Post Post #6611 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 9:30 am

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Jingle, what were your targets?
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Post Post #6612 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:34 am

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In post 6607, Lady Angel wrote:So mine's the near opposite after checking the role PM - one A in role name and three As in flavour, for four total.
I got 1 in role name and 1 in flavor :/
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Post Post #6613 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:37 am

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I have 2 A's. One before the comma wich I guess is my role and 1 the comma which I guess is flavor.
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Post Post #6614 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:39 am

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or maybe 2 A's in flavor and 2 in my role. I'm not really sure.
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Post Post #6615 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:50 am

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In post 6196, jjh927 wrote:Yo guys so I can actually get it out of the way

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Post Post #6616 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:51 am

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If you're voting at that time then it's your own fault
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Post Post #6617 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:51 am

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I gave plenty of notice
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Post Post #6618 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 10:58 am

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In post 6612, Creature wrote:
In post 6607, Lady Angel wrote:So mine's the near opposite after checking the role PM - one A in role name and three As in flavour, for four total.
I got 1 in role name and 1 in flavor :/
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Post Post #6619 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:17 am

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He's actully sparring with Jingle alot. Scum theatre?

As of he's backing down on Jingle.

A minorly important event has happened: he's town reading NSG b/c he felt like IC was town.

though at the end of page 3 it seems like his opinion on Mastina is changing just a little bit though I guess you could always argue that he's reading the room and she's the Mastina hate growing and that maintianing his stance that she's town is suicide. But then he goes back to just town reading her.

The rest of his ISO is mainly pushing Nico with some small tunnels on Jingle and Ari.

I guess my feelings are that it's kinda null that he town read Mastina so hard. Like yeah, its possible he's just wrong town but its certainly possible that he defends her so hard. I'm somewhat tempted to town read him based on voting Titus and sparring with Jingle (who I also feel is scummy). Although I'm not seeing this great play and in depth thinking that NSG and Vecna are claiming. I mean, he asks a few people about their role but that seems more like rolefishing than "setup spec". I'll hold for the incoming "scum wouldn't blatantly fish so hard" argument. He was also town reading Varsoon a bit up until he used his role. I think its totally possible that the Varsoon wagon was a bus to make Mastina look better.
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Post Post #6620 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:19 am

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In post 6616, jjh927 wrote:If you're voting at that time then it's your own fault
Doesn't freezing votes make us no lynch?
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Post Post #6621 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:21 am

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No
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Post Post #6622 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:22 am

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People who aren't voting can't switch their votes
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Post Post #6623 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:22 am

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In post 6622, jjh927 wrote:People who aren't voting can switch their votes

Whoops ebwop
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Post Post #6624 (ISO) » Sat Dec 01, 2018 11:27 am

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My biggest worry about JJH is not that he defended Mastina so much but his early game was just directionless vote hopping. I'd expect town to be a little more tunnely (like he is now).
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