Excalibur [Endgame]

[Varsoon]

Though maybe not since then he'd probably just vig a bunch of townies and lose us the game
so preferably not Arthur so we get 3 ICs

[Elsa Jay]

But you've said over and over your going for the sword, Varsoon. So scum can 50/50 between you and Maria I guess. Or just murder another random dude. Either Or.

[DVa]

The whole point is to get a BP IC into the game

no, the point is to get a BP IC *at the point where it will maximize town information and win chances*

that does not have to be n1

we WILL get a BP IC, there is no question

[SirCakez]

i honestly don't mind who goes for the sword tbh
in my mind either we get the IC or scum dies
altho mechanics aren't my fight here

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean, if one person goes for the sword and the entire game knows who it is they either die that night or are the only real lynch choice the next day

I can't think of any town motivation here for that plan

[Varsoon]

@Elsa: Depends on what LLD flips

@DVa: I've been over this again and again in newbie games. Having more ICs on the table to shrink a lynch pool is infinitely better than those ICs not being there. Our ideal play is Arthur, Merlin, and a BP IC all being around in D2. We do the hypo-claim, then play regular but Merlin and BP IC don't gladiate and, in fact, we probably should have someone who isn't hypoclaimed as Arthur to do the gladiate, since otherwise we risk a really really bad situation of the gladiate being between one of those three.

[DVa]

But the sword is an at-will IC, it doesn't go away if it is not resolved N1. The smaller the pool of players, the more useful the IC functionality becomes. Scum do not kill the claimant because they want the IC status resolved sooner rather than later

It is not a matter of "infinitely better" -- we get the IC. The question is, is having an extra IC better on D2, or turning the scum kill into a vig kill n2 + an IC better on d3?

Each night the sword is not resolved, if scum do not want it resolved, they turn their nightkill into our vig kill.

The player in question is resolved either way whether they claim the sword or not. If a scumread player is not claiming the sword, then scum kill a townread player.

We're going in circles now though and I still have no control over you choosing the sword or not, only my annoyance if a readable town player chooses to IC themselves despite the plan.

And for the record, I honestly don't give a fuck if U/T grabs the sword and shoots n2, so if you really insist on there being at least two claimants, I'd rather it be someone that has committed to shooting with it. I'm not strongly opposed to Maria+U/T, but I *do* think *only maria* is mechanically better by a significant margin.

[Gamma Emerald]

Maria just fucking do it

[MariaR]

I'm not doing it just so I can be a nk I rather play the game ty.

[MariaR]

The people going for the sword should be SS UT Dva Kokichi

[FakeGod]

PenguinPower replaces Ariane.

[Firebringer]

we had a hammer fakegod

[Firebringer]

PenguinPower replaces Ariane.

also penguins are BANNED!

[FakeGod]

VoteCount 1.2

Lady Lambdadelta [9] - MariaR, SirCakez, DVa, Dunnstral, Varsoon, Kokichi Oma, Auro, Nancy Drew 39, Firebringer [LYNCH]

MariaR [2] - Lady Lambdadelta, Gamma Emerald

Not Voting [6]

- Frozen Angel, Untrod Tripod, Something_Smart, VeridianCleric, Penguinpower, Elsa Jay

With 17 alive it takes 9 votes to lynch.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-03 16:00:00)

[FakeGod]

Lady Lambdadelta, who was

Knight Errant

, and aligned with

Town

,

died

in

Day 1

.

[FakeGod]

Night 1

Excalibur is

unclaimed.

[FakeGod]

Looking for replacement for Frozen Angel.

[FakeGod]

Something_Smart, who was

Knight Errant

, and aligned with

Town

, was

killed

in

Night 1

.

[FakeGod]

Day 2

Excalibur is

claimed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-09 22:00:00)

[Firebringer]

Something_Smart, who was

Knight Errant

, and aligned with

Town

, was

killed

in

Night 1

.

okkkkk

[Elsa Jay]

Nani? Well I guess the errant Knights didnt like his "logic". Or they're framing Varsoon?

Honestly this is either a frame kill or a safe kill. I don't think they killed him because he was onto something.

[Varsoon]

Welppp
Hypoclaim time.
Elsa Jay is Arthur.

[Kokichi Oma]

Welppp
Hypoclaim time.
Elsa Jay is Arthur.

still a bad idea

[Untrod Tripod]

I don't think they killed him because he was onto something.

Why

[Elsa Jay]

Because more then half of his time was spent arguing about the fundamentals with Varsoon and we literally had to tear him out the conversation with him to have him think elsawhere.