Excalibur [Endgame]

[Dunnstral]

I've changed my mind, Maria is scum here

Wow you scumreading maria? Why?

Want to hear more from FA slot given I have a slot of tr's and I think scum can be in the lurker slots.

Scumtastic

I've changed my mind, Maria is scum here

Why? This post sound more NAI to me.

I'm also referencing her posts at the end of yesterday where she suddenly announced that she wasn't going for the sword

What's really strange is it also feels like she already knows LLD is going to flip town in those posts

[Dunnstral]

I've changed my mind, Maria is scum here

Wow you scumreading maria? Why?

And what's your read on her?

[MariaR]

How do my posts imply town LLD.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I think your kinda forgetting about the duel mechanic, Kokichi-chan.

Oh right lol

HURT: varsoon

Do you think scum!Varsoon kills his biggest scumread?

It's not implausible that scum!Varsoon thought that S_S wasn't so easy to mislynch, and was genuinely annoyed by S_S to the point of wanting to kill him. Does look like a framing kill tho.

Someone who wants both SS and Varsoon out of the game, perhaps?

[Nancy Drew 39]

What do you think about my idea? Where Maria (and nobody else) claims the sword if LLD flips scum?

If this is the plan I refuse to go for the sword.

Like the whole point of me going for the sword is so I live ya know? If I die the point is moot

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

I won't go for the sword...or maybe I will we'll make scum guess

I'm not doing it just so I can be a nk I rather play the game ty.

Tbf Dunn, this makes total sense. Why does scum!Maria say she’s not going for the sword, as opposed to making excuses for not being the one to claim it. Because FG, said that the potential swordclaimer can be NK’d before they can hypothetically become bp right?

[Auro]

Someone who wants both SS and Varsoon out of the game, perhaps?

I'm still thinking as to what benefit scum would have by killing S_S. Are there players who rolled scum with him in previous games, and thought he might more easily read them? Or am I overthinking this, Nancy?

I know NKA isn't fruitful, but... This kill is interesting.

[Dunnstral]

The key point you are leaving out Nancy is that she never said anything until right after fire hammered

[Dunnstral]

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

This one Maria

Why would you die by town lynch if lld was scum?

[Dunnstral]

What do you think about my idea? Where Maria (and nobody else) claims the sword if LLD flips scum?

If this is the plan I refuse to go for the sword.

Like the whole point of me going for the sword is so I live ya know? If I die the point is moot

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

I won't go for the sword...or maybe I will we'll make scum guess

I'm not doing it just so I can be a nk I rather play the game ty.

Tbf Dunn, this makes total sense. Why does scum!Maria say she’s not going for the sword, as opposed to making excuses for not being the one to claim it. Because FG, said that the potential swordclaimer can be NK’d before they can hypothetically become bp right?

Scum maria can't gaurantee that town goes for the sword

It looked like UT and varsoon were backing off it at eod

So if it lays there unclaimed after she said she'd go for it she's outted

[Dunnstral]

Town Maria would have responded to 1507 too

I just know she would have

[Auro]

Is it a reasonable expectation from town to submit to a governed Excalibur cop, at the cost of possibly being a NK? I think it absolutely is, since it helps the game move forward a great deal. Maria, do you not think so?

[Dunnstral]

That doesn't even matter

Point is she was in agreement until lld was abruptly hammered then she suddenly went on about not wanting to grab the sword in twilight

[Nancy Drew 39]

Someone who wants both SS and Varsoon out of the game, perhaps?

I'm still thinking as to what benefit scum would have by killing S_S. Are there players who rolled scum with him in previous games, and thought he might more easily read them? Or am I overthinking this, Nancy?

I know NKA isn't fruitful, but... This kill is interesting.

I have no idea but generally scum doesn’t NK their #1 scumread on the same night they push them. However, I’ve heard that scum!Varsoon is apparently “insane” but I’m leaning more town for him so far.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I'm not doing it just so I can be a nk I rather play the game ty.

The people going for the sword should be SS UT Dva Kokichi

Didn't like these posts much.
Either town!Maria *really* didn't want to claim it, or scum!Maria was trying to evade. Hmm~

It doesn’t look great that she left her own name out of it, or encouraged specific players to go after it. Not sure why DVa is mentioned specifically but definitely, possible shading on those 4 players.

Maria why would you encourage specific players to claim the sword, rather than in general? Why wouldn’t you want a chance to claim it?

[Nancy Drew 39]

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

This one Maria

Why would you die by town lynch if lld was scum?

Okay, I see your point. She clearly wasn’t scum locking her.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Dunnstal is Reinhardt

It's so true, how did you know

Town Maria would have responded to 1507 too

I just know she would have

I don’t even understand 1507.

[Auro]

@Nancy:
Exactly. Had she not asked specific people to take it, it would've looked a lot better and I would've written off her hesitation to take the sword as WIFOM to avoid a NK.

Naming specific people implies an intention of *actually* wanting to not claim the sword.

[Nancy Drew 39]

What do you think about my idea? Where Maria (and nobody else) claims the sword if LLD flips scum?

If this is the plan I refuse to go for the sword.

Like the whole point of me going for the sword is so I live ya know? If I die the point is moot

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

I won't go for the sword...or maybe I will we'll make scum guess

I'm not doing it just so I can be a nk I rather play the game ty.

Tbf Dunn, this makes total sense. Why does scum!Maria say she’s not going for the sword, as opposed to making excuses for not being the one to claim it. Because FG, said that the potential swordclaimer can be NK’d before they can hypothetically become bp right?

Scum maria can't gaurantee that town goes for the sword

It looked like UT and varsoon were backing off it at eod

So if it lays there unclaimed after she said she'd go for it she's outted

Day 2

Excalibur is

claimed.

Countdown to deadline: (expired on 2018-12-09 22:00:00)

[Nancy Drew 39]

@Nancy:
Exactly. Had she not asked specific people to take it, it would've looked a lot better and I would've written off her hesitation to take the sword as WIFOM to avoid a NK.

Naming specific people implies an intention of *actually* wanting to not claim the sword.

Yes, I agree.

[Auro]

Nancy, I think Dunn knows it's claimed, he's saying that Maria was backing off after saying she'd claim it because it seemed that Varsoon and UT were backing off too, and she would've been outed IF the sword was unclaimed. What was your point in 1542?

[MariaR]

w/e do I rly have a choice I'll just die either by scum nk or by town lynch zz

This one Maria

Why would you die by town lynch if lld was scum?

That's not the point you were trying to make though. You were saying I implied I knew LLD would flip town. How does this point relate to that at all.

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, I think Dunn knows it's claimed, he's saying that Maria was backing off after saying she'd claim it because it seemed that Varsoon and UT were backing off too, and she would've been outed IF the sword was unclaimed. What was your point in 1542?

Oh, I thought he missed reading that.

[MariaR]

Also I don't see whats wrong with me not wanting to take the sword.

[Auro]

Is it a reasonable expectation from town to submit to a governed Excalibur cop, at the cost of possibly being a NK? I think it absolutely is, since it helps the game move forward a great deal. Maria, do you not think so?

Maria, opinion on this?

[Nancy Drew 39]

Also I don't see whats wrong with me not wanting to take the sword.

Why wouldn’t you want to take the sword? It makes you a bp IC?