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[DVa]

No one visited Koki last night, which was surprising since he was the obvious kill. But my voyeur ability is basically useless at this point because scum have no need of any ability other than kill

[DVa]

So scum lefta PR and a GS inno alive to kill Oka?

The Oka kill is worth thinking about but yeah, Koki hasn't really been driving the narrative, and if they think they can drive his vote then they win if he's town. I'm assuming Oka kill was more valuable since I'm the planned mislynch for game win

[DVa]

If I'm right, the Mew lynch was a last ditch effort in response to the planned course of action of PP lynch --> Gamma jail+GS which would have been town autowin

[DVa]

That setup could result in a D2 win for town perfectly played without a scum doctor or roleblocker/jailkeeper.

like, chance this is scum looking at autoloss and is complaining about the situation? this spec requires PP to believe that scum do not have a roleblocker which was not the thought process I was having at the time

so if scum team is something like strong investigative (scum rolecop) + ?(even goon maybe) vs. GS+Vig+JK+Voyeur, then he would be looking at a setup that was stacked for town and not really caring about the game, which would be why he and Gamma both got bored and PP basically stopped posting anything of substance once the mechanical discussion set in

[DVa]

PP and Gamma would both also be more familiar with A50 and thus would be more likely to target him for a night 1 kill in this playerlist imo

[DVa]

Like I did not play this game flawlessly but the Mew lynch was a lowkey throw and my tilt since then has been kinda wild

I also think the intent to hammer after hammer from Gamma was pretty lamist

Let's just hammer test and be done with it?

VOTE: Gamma

Nako if you could post with Koki so that if I'm *that wrong* we could find out real quick that would be great

[DVa]

Or should I spend more time here ruling out Nako+PP?

Like who looks the shittiest from the Mew lynch, PP who was getting lynched, Gamma who was getting jailed+invested, or Nako who was getting shot?

Gamma every time right? Because Gamma as someone who would be gunsmith cleared should be totally fine with that plan, but he jumped ship for the stupidest possible reasons

PP (from a town POV) knows he is town and so just lynches literally anyone else, even if PP is still probably scum

Gamma should have had positive incentive to stay on that course of action if he was town, and if he jumped ship out of real town boredom and it's PP + Nako I'll be both surprised and a little bit pissed

[DVa]

But Gamma should only really jump ship there if he's scum, and that also explains the double kill on A50

If Gamma is town, Seph gets shot by scum. A50 only gets double killed by vig+scum if A50 is checking scum, and A50 was checking Gamma

[Kokichi Oma]

Why are you voting so fast in lylo. Dont make me sr you

[DVa]

Yeah I think I agree with that sentiment
VOTE: Mewtaph

I was roleblocked?

Wait what UNVOTE:
Could we pause for a second?

Do you want PP to be today's lynch?

I think it’s a good idea
VOTE: penguinpower

VOTE: Mew
w/e

This progression makes sense if Gamma is scum with PP when the original plan was that Oka gets jailed+invested, wherein the vote on PP is a bus. He changes to Mew when we start saying he will be the one jailed and investigated

This progression is open wolfing if Gamma is scum with Nako

This progression is hot garbage if Gamma is town, but it's not like I'd blame him in particular for this throw, that's mostly A50 for agreeing to be shot and Seph for actually fucking shooting him

[DVa]

Why are you voting so fast in lylo. Dont make me sr you

If I was scum I wouldn't be voting yet

Do you want me to unvote or do you want Nako to post something so that we can hard rule out you + Nako?

[DVa]

Like how much do I want to overthink a game where the the vig shot the fucking gunsmith *AFTER* it became incredibly likely that the GS had been a jailkeeper save n1

like that's just fucking nuts, we have one clear, I have a 2/3 chance, and I don't think it's Nako, and I have had incidental doubts about PP. I don't know who Gamma's partner is with total certainty but I don't see how he's not scum here. It's *probably* Gamma+PP, but I feel like it's DEFINITELY Gamma given the counter-push on Mew

Nako was not on Mew, and while conventional wisdom would be one scum on, one scum off, if it was PP + Gamma they were looking at autoloss right there

[DVa]

Like Koki if you say PP is better, because he was feeding Oka's setup spec wifom, then sure, say the word, but scum lost their shit when I said that we were action dumping on Gamma

so why would they do that if he's town?

[DVa]

Like Penguin thought it was Gamma and Gamma thought it was Penguin but they never really fucking pushed each other at all, they've just been distancing all game

Now I guess the fear is PP+ Nako where Nako asks for a mass claim because she *needs* to find the vig, which she knows is real because she's not the one who shot BEF

I think that would be the main argument for Nako scum, but I kinda don't think scum ask for a mass claim after they fail their n1 kill tbh

and even if she was scum does that at this point make Gamma town?

[Nako]

If it is PP-Kokichi, we already lost.
I will put my vote probably on the weekend.

[skitter30]

VOTE COUNT 5.1

Gamma Emerald (1) -

DVa

Not Voting (4)

- Gamma Emerald, Kokichi Oma, Nako, PenguinPower

With 5 alive, it takes 3 to lynch

Deadline:

(expired on 2018-12-17 20:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[PenguinPower]

Sorry. Work has been slammed unexpectedly the past two days. I’ll get to this in the morning.

[Kokichi Oma]

Been busy. Will check soon

[PenguinPower]

Interesting that Koki wasn't the kill

Not sure why you think I'm scum now Nako

So Koki was cleared by Gunsmith so if the only result A50 got was on a scum doctor I think we just lose

Hmm...

[PenguinPower]

If {PP, Gamma} doesn't have a scum though I will tiltreplace out if game isn't over by that point tho

That EoD was fucking gross

Nako and Koki are my only townreads at this point

Hmm...

[PenguinPower]

Like Penguin thought it was Gamma and Gamma thought it was Penguin but they never really fucking pushed each other at all, they've just been distancing all game

Have you seriously pushed me? I mean, you have said I was the lynch almost every day...but...did you really push me?

Hmm...

[DVa]

Are you implying I was distancing you? Because I'm not sure I get your "hmm" otherwise, since presumably I would not be distancing you unless you were scum with me.

[DVa]

Hmm...

I don't know what I'm supposed to do with "Hmm..." -- do you disagree with some part of my reasoning?

[DVa]

I mean I know Nako logged off at some point but Koki and Nako were posting in relatively close proximity earlier so if it is a Koki/Nako team they kinda threw by not hammering Gamma already

[DVa]

Also Gamma has basically just stopped responding to this thread which suggests to me that I'm right