Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]

[Clemency]

i got intimidated by the copious amounts of really good high effort players in this game which means i feel like i have to actually watch what i say and i'm not good at that so i'm too anxious to say anything that might cause me to be a mislynch send help

[Clemency]

how do i post a video i've seen others do it

[Clemency]

also the big depressions

[Blackjacks]

I feel like scum would more likely make up a trajectory rather than just naked vote us, but I'm curious to hear what ceejay's reasoning was

-r

[AnonymousGhost]

VOTE: Volxen

368 gives me "dead horse" vibes. Feel like it could have scum motive by following the leader i.e. X does something, couple of people react with Z, so scum follows suit to fit in.

[AnonymousGhost]

Note To Self: You're @ Page 16

[AnonymousGhost]

Scrolling though posts...

Firebringer = maybe town; 439 is when he realizes game has 4 scumz. had aster and blackjack as scumzies so im willing to believe this statement more cause it shows he wasn't looking for four peeps to start with

[AnonymousGhost]

Like, as long as MEMEMEN keep up this highly contradictory behavior I don't think we'll get a firm read on Aster since she'll not need to go off by speculations (what would be way more helpful to read her), but will always have the perfect inquestionably case where we always look at MEMEMAN and wonder "is he just scum or is he kinda thoughtless?".

this seems a bit hasty ATM this was posted

aster had made some other reads to other players. why aren't those cases being used - presumably by you - to determine her (his? the avatar is throwing me off. sorry aster) alignment?

[AnonymousGhost]

im referring to aster's 393 post btw

[AnonymousGhost]

wait a second

[AnonymousGhost]

tis official 393 is whip cream. lots of words, but when you break it down into a single sentence... not much substance to it.

BlackJack

Most unfortunately lurking isn't alignment indicative, which makes it hard for me to establish any proper read on them.

Gamma Emerald

His active lurking while dancing around "my meta has changed" and calling it a town meta (323) does draw my attention as potentially scummy.

Keyzer

So far Keyser Söze has given me no concrete reasons to think he's town nor reasons to believe he's scum. I'm writing him as "neutral".

Pint

I am somewhat wary of pinturicchio because of this.

In a nutshell...

BlackJack = null
Gamma = potentially scummy
Keyzer = null
Pint = null

[AnonymousGhost]

i think volxen should be the lynch if we don't find any better options

@Clemeny

- does this mean that Volxen was a scum read for you ATM you posted this?

[Firebringer]

Scrolling though posts...

Firebringer = maybe town; 439 is when he realizes game has 4 scumz. had aster and blackjack as scumzies so im willing to believe this statement more cause it shows he wasn't looking for four peeps to start with

counter point:
i have made that post of not knowing the scum numbers as scum before

[AnonymousGhost]

i wish mafia was easy......

[Firebringer]

im sorry. i had to ruin ur superficial read.
u can still townread me if u want, but has to be of my natural townieness

[AnonymousGhost]

sounds like a brandname

[Firebringer]

no it doesn't.
it sounds like a company slogan.

[AnonymousGhost]

VOTE: Aster - I like this better. :3

@Aster

- so besides pointing out RC's chainsaw defense of Volxen in 751 and reaching an FoS on the both of them... did that post get you any closer to sorting out their alignments?

[AnonymousGhost]

all caught up~

Spring for being kinda awkward and not contributing much to the game.

Spring's firmly in the camp that the slot will resolve later. Either the majority will lynch this slot off before LyLo or scum might kill it off because it's the weakest link me thinks.

Based off of these posts link.

Volxen for early not being much engaged until his wagon kicked off.

guy's null for me right now.

BlackJack because one of the heads is playing differently but the explanation is because they created this hydra exactly because they wanted a less tryhard approach, also they did hard scum read Volxen since very early.

i don't trust meta reads/wagons, so the first point is bleh. Their push against Volxen - specifically them noticing his parroting - feels town.

Ceejay for the reasons I explained in the last 2 pages or so.

Only one of your points in 815 is legit (joining the BlackJack wagon). the rest are just conf bias or differences in play style.

[AnonymousGhost]

Spring's firmly in the camp that the slot will resolve later.

meh.

clemency can go here too.

[AnonymousGhost]

I'll mainly use my vote as an incentive for town to use at their leisure until I see something of true value being pushed. Blackjacks does seem more town though.

@Springtrap

- What would be something of true value to you?

Can you point me in the direction where BlackJack seems town to you? That's if you can't put your finger on why exactly they seem more town to you.

[AnonymousGhost]

i got intimidated by the copious amounts of really good high effort players

@Clemency

- Who do you feel is giving a good high effort? What's your read on them?

[Springtrap]

all caught up~

Spring for being kinda awkward and not contributing much to the game.

Spring's firmly in the camp that the slot will resolve later. Either the majority will lynch this slot off before LyLo or scum might kill it off because it's the weakest link me thinks.

Based off of these posts link.

By the mechanic of scum being able to kill their own before they can be lynched, doesn't that give a possibility of a weak player be towncleared for the simple reason that scum cant afford to have them lynched?

The fact scum have the ability to kill their own seems more of a red herring, to be honest. Like the color of the flag.

Pedit: when I see/hear explanations, there's always a tone behind it. Rereading Aster gives me less of an emotional response then rereading Blackjacks, though arguably they did a similar read response. Blackjack did critism much more then just bashing the other player from the way i read it. His responses seem individual, and less group I guess?

He seems more unsure, therefore an individual who only knows their own role. Aster reads more indecisive, which is similar but different from unsure. More... Unlikely to care if any of the listed do flip since they could know the outcome already.

[northsidegal]

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