Mini Normal 2044: Game over!

[bji]

I targeted Irrel last night. I wanted the claims because there are some roles other than RB that would explain my lack of result.

I thought you thought cop roles were for sorting lurkers?

[Persivul]

I targeted Irrel last night. I wanted the claims because there are some roles other than RB that would explain my lack of result.

I thought you thought cop roles were for sorting lurkers?

They are. I didn't expect to be here anyway so I went with my gut.

[Irrelephant11]

@Clemency I am aware that you are active onsite today without posting here. Please provide deeper thoughts on who you think is scum

[Clemency]

i can't mention games onsite so i'll say it here too; i'm having major burnout rn and some irl stuff is catching up to me
i know you guys probably don't see me as the most serious ever but i'll try to give my thoughts in-depth by around tomorrow

[Persivul]

VOTE: Irrelephant

I really want this.

[Sashaddin]

yeah but I'm pretty sure town would tell the truth here, unless their hidden PR is somehow gamewinning in a way that hasn't come up yet. Can't think of anything.

A factual counterclaim to Persivul wins for town, but only if claimed today. Because we just lynch the claimer and then when they flip town, we lynch Persivul tomorrow for the win.

So until someone counterclaims, Persivul is confirmed cop.

Sorry I am thinking through all of this out loud. I am sure Persivul understood all of this before he even asked for claims, which is why he asked for them.

I did not think of this, thanks for typing it. I liked the "setup" proof from earlier, so with this strategic one I'm pretty convinced now.

[Sashaddin]

I really want this.

Because of his Day 3 so far, right?

[Lady Angel]

Votecount 3.1:

Irrelephant11: 1 (Persivul)

Not voting: Clemency, Sashaddin, Irrelephant11, Bji

The following players have not posted since day start and will be prodded if they don't post before the next votecount:

Day 3 has begun. It will end on Christmas Day 2018 at 9:00 PM PST, or 19 days and 24 minutes from this post.

[Persivul]

I really want this.

Because of his Day 3 so far, right?

And rereading D2.

[Persivul]

Do you think that Clemency has a weak town game?

This is my 7th game only, so take my word for it's worth. I don't see her play as weak, because those scums were really good in last game. In fact I've seen weak players and Clem is not one of them.

What game are you referencing?

[Persivul]

Persivul, why would Sash kill Reaper instead of you? Even if he were roleblocker, I think your level of play is higher than everyone else's here so I would expect Sash to want to get rid of you instead of a player (Reaper) who wasn't really contributing anything to town's chances of winning other than being a warm body.

Furthermore, you are I were both agreeing to vote Sash today. So Sash could predict that he would already have two firm votes today, and only needing one more to be lynched, it seems that his only hope would be to eliminate you and hope that two other town besides me wouldn't vote him.

Additionally, your elimination was expected and so wouldn't really give much info about who the scum was.

The question then becomes, is Sash really ballsy enough to count on the above conclusions and do the opposite to throw us off his track? No offense Sash, but I don't think so.

In my opinion scum is either Clem or Irrelephant.

I need to read more to see which player was more likely to kill Reaper than you. Again, busy with work, not sure when I will be able to do this, probably tonight.

I read sash's D1 ISO and it's pretty damn townie. He's no longer in my scum pool. I had him scummy due to Creature's read (which was right on Garmr) and Garmr's lack of interaction with him, but he looks good on his own.

Sash - what's your scum pool currently?

[Clemency]

i'm here
i'm queer
i'm ready to play
what do y'all need

[Clemency]

Do you think that Clemency has a weak town game?

This is my 7th game only, so take my word for it's worth. I don't see her play as weak, because those scums were really good in last game. In fact I've seen weak players and Clem is not one of them.

What game are you referencing?

https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77634

[Persivul]

i'm here
i'm queer
i'm ready to play
what do y'all need

Required - give reads and reasons for all players
Optional - vote Irrel

[Irrelephant11]

Okay I’m here
I’m only on mobile today so this might be a challenge
But I’m here and ready

[Irrelephant11]

Aaaand I’m getting called into a meeting
I will be here today tho

[Sashaddin]

I can find small breaks for posting today yay!

Scummy
Clemency
Irrelephant
bji
town

[Clemency]

i'm here
i'm queer
i'm ready to play
what do y'all need

Required - give reads and reasons for all players
Optional - vote Irrel

sash - i had my doubts in day 2 but i realise now that's because i was just mentally sheeping the game and not paying much attention, i think it's actually fairly likely for him to be town this game
bji - similarly likely town, though i have a hard time reading through all his posts sometimes
irrel - yeah i'll sheep you there ngl
if it's not irrel i'd say sash next
VOTE: irrelephant
i'll try and verbalize my reasons behind it gimme a moment

[Clemency]

how much does it take to lynch today i'm too lazy to maths

[Clemency]

i'm having trouble focusing in general today
i should sleep more than 6h regularly

[Persivul]

I can find small breaks for posting today yay!

Scummy

Clemency
Irrelephant

bji
town

Perfect. You, me, and bji are in agreement. We lynch one of {Clem, Irrel} today. If that doesn't end it, whichever two of us are alive tomorrow lynch the other one. I strongly prefer Irrel today but if you guys both pledge to abide by this plan, and both want to lynch Clem today, I'll go along with it. Let me know if you agree.

bji, do you agree?

UNVOTE:

[Clemency]

that's not a very good idea brotherman

[Persivul]

that's not a very good idea brotherman

You agree on irrel.

Regarding sash, take a look at your ISO vs. his. Try to consider an objective townie reading both of those. If you're honest, you know Sash looks better.

You just like to fuck around and fluff post. That's your choice. I understand it, and bear you no ill will because of it. But don't complain when people can't town read you. That style is lynchbait. Look at Creature. He had a good read on Garmr, but he got lynched, because he posts the same as you.

[Clemency]

eh fair
that's the downside i guess
i play like this because i'm 10x worse at playing full serious

[Persivul]

i play like this because i'm 10x worse at playing full serious

Maybe now, but it's like anything else - practice at it and you'll get better. Analyze failures. Ask for tips in post game. Hydra with someone you respect.