Excalibur [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Nancy, how well would you rate yourself on verifying how strong meta-tells can be?
I think there are some leads we can pursue here in the current gamestate, I don't think I'm good at this.

Who are your leads?

I'm a bit busy ATM, have to read a bit more but: What's your take on Varsoon? In my last game with him, he was town, and seemed to lack direction, and is displaying a similar behavior here. Can this be AI for him?

I dunno, I think you also can’t ignore how the mechanics are affecting play. Other than his initial freakouts at DVa and SS, nothing about his play has particularly pinged me. Why? Are you suspicious of him now?

[Auro]

I dunno, I think you also can’t ignore how the mechanics are affecting play. Other than his initial freakouts at DVa and SS, nothing about his play has particularly pinged me. Why? Are you suspicious of him now?

No, the opposite -- his disengaged style seems to be town-indicative to me.
I've not read any meta, and I know that Varsoon's hard to read, but I have a hunch that scum!Varsoon might try to drive the game more, generally speaking. I think Varsoon's experienced enough to not let his play be affected by mechanics.

[Gamma Emerald]

@nancy because I'm trying to ferret out scumreads from people as an alternative to the ongoing "plan" battle and you're one of those people arguing

I like this though

[Gamma Emerald]

Wow I was closer to done than I thought
Also I thought about what I want to happen today, and I’m thinking Dunn should gladiate MariaR
HURT: Dunnstral
HURT WITH A BLADE: MariaR

[Auro]

Wow I was closer to done than I thought
Also I thought about what I want to happen today, and I’m thinking Dunn should gladiate MariaR
HURT: Dunnstral
HURT WITH A BLADE: MariaR

Why do you scumread Dunnstral? He's the only one actually pushing while everyone else seems to be lurking away, no?

[Gamma Emerald]

Problem is his activity looks like that of scum with MariaR who realized that MariaR was gonna be suspected heavily and decided to hardbus

[Firebringer]

that makes no sense what so ever

[Gamma Emerald]

Yeah it does
During the D1 duel he was clearly on Maria’s side, now he just flips his read? Where’s the conviction?

[MariaR]

Wow I was closer to done than I thought
Also I thought about what I want to happen today, and I’m thinking Dunn should gladiate MariaR
HURT: Dunnstral
HURT WITH A BLADE: MariaR

If this was anyone but Gamma I'd sr it but given Gammas history this isn't as bad as it looks tbh.

[Varsoon]

Waiting for Penguin to swoop in with "This is Auro's scumgame, Auro dies today"

Why would you be worried about this as town?
Unless you're laying down your scumgame as town for some reason?

[Auro]

Waiting for Penguin to swoop in with "This is Auro's scumgame, Auro dies today"

Why would you be worried about this as town?
Unless you're laying down your scumgame as town for some reason?

In jest, I'm not worried at all.

I usually use a emoticon when I'm joking around.

[Varsoon]

That face is always way more sly looking that I intend it.
So when I see other people use it, it seems like a kinda wink and a nudge emoticon more than a joking-around one
My : P is kind of a 'blah' face.
Kinda more
https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/925463-adventure-time

[Varsoon]

I think it's the tongue in the middle and the eyebrows that make that more sinister than a regular : P

[Auro]

Ah. It renders way to small for me. I zoomed in and yeah, it does look a little bit evil. There's one easy alternative tho :p (heheh)

[Gamma Emerald]

I prefer the winky face

[Auro]

Winky seems very mildly provocative.

Gamma, can you present a case on Maria independent of the Dunn associative? I'm not convinced by Dunn's case, and am very weakly leaning town on MariaR.

[Varsoon]

Yeah you can use :p but that's definitely more joking than : P for me, again, it's something about the off-centered 'tongue'.

[Varsoon]

But yeah if you meant :p that makes sense but still

[Gamma Emerald]

I haven’t really scrutinized MariaR like that yet
I can try I guess

[Varsoon]

I thought you were town in that last game and I think you're town here. :/

[Auro]

There's 4.5 days remaining -- the lurking makes me *very* uncomfortable with MariaR being in the spotlight.

I'd much rather lunch a lurk slot.

[Auro]

I thought you were town in that last game and I think you're town here. :/

I think what prompted you to townread me last game was my activity? I judged that it's possible to "earn" a townread from you by playing somewhat aggressively and actively, in an earnest way. I even added some line about not replacing out, just for that pocket.

I'm town this time, tho, I'll try probing that through actions. *Shrug*

[Varsoon]

Yeah that's the problem
You snowed the shit out of me last game, especially because of how you handled that early wagon with Egix and how it left me thinking it was town v town wagon.

So, I know that you're really observant and capable of being appeasing as scum
But also fairly aware of your own play and cognizant moving forward
It makes it difficult to pin you down, even with interactions.

[Varsoon]

Like I said, I wanna say you're town here, too, but ugh.
Like even you sweeping back into mechanics talk with spoilers= tags strikes me as particularly anti-town and appeasing.

[Auro]

Like even you sweeping back into mechanics talk with spoilers= tags strikes me as particularly anti-town and appeasing.

Appeasing who, though? Seems like a great deal of players here are *against* it, no?

If you're talking about the spoilering, it's because at least one player has gone "I'm skipping all of this, because mechanics blech", and I don't want anyone to use that excuse. This is me actually interested in best mechanical play.

Why is spoilering anti-town, when not doing so causes players to refuse to read through other content too?
Why is mechanic talk (especially that I've toned it down) necessarily anti-town?