A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[Nero Cain]

but you guys, wasn't it actually Jingle that was leading Nico and she refused to gladiate BOTH Jingle and Nico?

[Jingle]

What’s the argument for not speedlynching Nico then?

People haven't been voting her.

Basically, Nero/Shoshin/Vecna are trying to sort each other today when logic tells us they're all still going to be around tomorrow.

Also, you're also probably still going to be around tomorrow because your predecessor claimed some kill dodge-y mechanic and we have no reason to disbelieve that. Fire is also still probably going to be around tomorrow because we have hidden protective role(s) scum needs to hunt out still.

I'm of the opinion that we should end the day, let scum kill someone who they think is dangerous (I hope it's me!) and then try to figure out the other scum in the morning when we have more information and massclaim is probably optimal.

[Jingle]

but you guys, wasn't it actually Jingle that was leading Nico and she refused to gladiate BOTH Jingle and Nico?

She refused to gladiate me when I asked while at Hurt-2, yeah. She said she wouldn't gladiate anyone until a hammer was cast.

[Lady Angel]

Mastina was also possibly purposedly stalling the game for weeks to kill discussion that wasn't focussed on her to keep her partners safer (Varsoon nonwithstanding).

Nero, it was JJH leading the Nico train.

[Jingle]

You should probably just gladiate me, given ~48 hours til deadline and me being at L-1 Gladiate wise, mastina.

I'll do it if all the players on the wagon give confirmation they are on it (have they? I don't think so), and if it is hammered, but otherwise, deadline's no concern; my ability adds time to it, you'll recall.

I'd still prefer to use it on V given the choice.

This was the refusal, btw.

[Jingle]

Because of the relative importance of said hurtcounts, I'm considering making a compilation post of them.

Lmk by pm or in game your thoughts on that.

I'd appreciate it for my own reference tomorrow if I'm still around, but honestly it's probably not relevant. I could just as easily multiquote them when/if I go to reference them myself.

If you do decide to do it though, I'll appreciate it.

[profii]

mastina actively refused to gladiate players like NicoRobin.

mastina actively refused to lynch anyone who didn't get put to L-1.

She would have gladiated NR when NR was gladiate hammered or we would have lynched her (her being mastina).

There was a lot of pushback to a NR gladiate (including from me).

So then the town thing to do would be to rush silly wagons to force her hand, or as you say just force Mastina to drive the gladiating

Did anyone start trying to shepherd the group into hammering and/or did anyone push for “no let’s vote sensibly” and slow things down

(These questions are open to all ofc)

[profii]

You should probably just gladiate me, given ~48 hours til deadline and me being at L-1 Gladiate wise, mastina.

I'll do it if all the players on the wagon give confirmation they are on it (have they? I don't think so), and if it is hammered, but otherwise, deadline's no concern; my ability adds time to it, you'll recall.

I'd still prefer to use it on V given the choice.

This was the refusal, btw.

You’re at L-1 but she refused... Nico? Eh?

[Lady Angel]

If I had to guess, I'd say she wasn't going to gladiate anyone but Varsoon on day 2, since they were trying so hard to bus her, which is probably why she didn't gladiate Jingle.

Nico, on the other hand, she defended for days.

[Nero Cain]

I think me and Meme were the ones that wanted Mastina to speed shit up, I don't remember who else.

[Shoshin]

I'd prefer this day phase to last as long as possible.

[Shoshin]

profii, I'd love to discuss the game with you when you have a chance.

[Aristophanes]

I'd prefer this day phase to last as long as possible.

Why tho?

[Nero Cain]

to make you sweat.

[Aristophanes]

to make you sweat.

Okay then.

Just don't see the point in dragging out another dayphase when we have a mechanical 1v1 but *shrugs* you do you!

[Jingle]

You’re at L-1 but she refused... Nico? Eh?

I proposed multivoting and hurtcounts as a way to make the day faster.

Despite self voting, no one else would hammer the gladiate on me for some reason. She had been asked to gladiate both me and nico at that point in the day, and she wanted to wait to see if she could get Varsoon instead.

Varsoon was at L-2 or L-3 at that point iirc. Then Vecna unvoted me to put Nico, Varsoon and I at all the same level gladiate wise because he wanted a NR gladiate over a me gladiate. Varsoon went off and did his thing and died.

Meme was the loudest proponent of mastina hipshooting gladiates, but Nero was another big name there iirc. JJ threatened to use his role to prevent gladiation to try to force her to gladiate faster, but didn't, on the same day as Varsoon's death.

I think jj might have been the one to start the democratic process of the gladiate, but it happened before me and I'm not slogging through his 4000 posts again to find out. If not him, it was probably mastina.

Fire, Varsoon, Wheme, Ari and I think some other peeps just wanted to lynch mastina, and me and jj were the only real opposition to that before the Varsoon lynch iirc. Vecna was significant resistance to that afterwards.

[Jingle]

I'd prefer this day phase to last as long as possible.

I would be completely fine with Meme hammering right now. And I think they can, at the moment.

[Jingle]

Relevant vote count, for reference.

Gladiate VoteCount 5:

Ineligible Players:

KuroiXHF:
Chickadee:
Mastina: Firebringer, Nero Cain, Whemestar

Eligible Players

Jingle: L-1 (10) Nero Cain, Creature, JJH, Jingle, Lady Angel, Aristophanes, Nico Robin, Vecna, Varsoon, Gamma Emerald
Nicorobin: (9) Lady Angel, Whemestar,

JJH

, Invisibility, Jingle, Varsoon, Gamma Emerald, Aristophanes,

Vecna

Varsoon: (8) Northsidegal, Mastina, Creature, Skygazer, Chickadee, Jingle,

Meme Men

, Nico Robin
Vecna: (5) Creature, Invisibility, Jingle, Varsoon, Aristophanes, Gamma Emerald
Northsidegal: (4) Chickadee, Jingle, Invisibility, Meme Men, Nero Cain
Aristophanes: (3) Chickadee, JJH, Meme Men
Firebringer: (3) Mastina, Creature,Jingle,
Lady Angel: (3) Mastina, Skygazer, Jingle,
jjh927: (3)

Jingle

, Lady Angel,

Nico Robin

,
The MEME Men: (3) Jingle, Creature, Meme Men,
Whemestar: (3) Mastina, Vecna, Creature
Porkens: (3) Jingle, Nico Robin, Vecna,
Gamma Emerald: (2) Jingle, Meme Men,
Nero Cain: (2) Vecna, Varsoon,
Skygazer: (1) Jingle, Nero Cain
Invisibility: (0)
Creature: (0)
Threshold reduction:
Threshold increase:

Players without a gladiate opinion at all: KuroiXHF, Porkens

With 20 alive, 11 is the proposed Gladiate Threshhold. If you want to reduce or increase the threshold, please indicate as such.

Please note, this includes information stolen from the recent votecounts and possibly from reads lists, assuming that all players you're claiming are scum you are also willing to see gladiated.

If you would like your name removed from a wagon, please indicate as such.

Additionally, I have begun the process of bolding the name on the wagon of their strongest scumread (Or what I percieve to be their strongest scumread). If you would like to have your name bolded on a particular wagon, please say so and I will oblige.

Links added and votes moved to be roughly chronological. Please let me know if anything needs to be changed/added/removed.

[Gamma Emerald]

Am I voting Nico? I should be voting Nico.
VOTE: NicoRobin

[Jingle]

Pretty sure that's L-1.

[Creature]

tbh I'm alright ending the day

[jjh927]

Either Nico is gonna flip scum or my entire perspective on the game is getting obliterated


We're not gonna make this any more accurate by waiting around imo

[Lady Angel]

Is there anything we can even gain from today anymore? Nico, Meme, and NSG have all vanished, and it's not like we have to plan out tomorrow since regardless of what Nico flips we have a plan to go off of.

[THE MEME MEN]

I haven't read anything since Saturday, anything Right Head in particular needs to respond to or should we seal the deal here?

A little worried mostly since basically no one counter-pushed onto NSG but I'm kinda in a 'f it' mood atm

-rh

[Jingle]

Nicorobin (3):

jjh927, Northsidegal, Firebringer

Added to this: Vecna, me, Lady Angel, Ari, GE

8 on, 9 to lynch. It is indeed L-1.