Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[DrewVa]

1. My memory sucks, I don't remember.

2. You bringing up your scum meta makes me trust it less.

(posts like that are never meant for the people I'm responding to...they're meant for the other people in the game who I know are at least somewhat familiar with us)



That aside though, you should never trust the meta of a competent player. My very self-awareness about meta things is the reason why 1) Varsoon is being silly trying to draw a meta connection between my play here and my play...like...over a year ago...with a different hydra partner, and 2) ...Actually, I don't think I have a 2. Just a general warning about meta being crap alone, but having some value as an indicator of where to pay attention; acting out of character being more significant than acting IN CHARACTER with a certain alignment.

Oh right.

If anybody has any NU, they should claim it now. They should have claimed it yesterday, but I'll give you a pass because I was dumb and didn't crawl up everyone's ass about it.

I'm looking at you DGB, but anyone else should do so as well!

-Cerb

NU?

[DrewVa]

I dont see a slip

. Get back on hebi.

+1

[BuJaber]

yeh def hebi buddies in there

Varsoon and Aclem seem the worst to me. Both Cerb and Dave are just do do's.

Alch is a little too blatant

Varsoon I could see

I’m blatant because I’m sure that guilty is fake.

How would you know?

[DrewVa]

I dont see a slip. Get back on hebi.

I don’t see a slip either, but Creature’s still scum. He might not have slipped, but I’ll take the wagon.

If you don’t see a slip, why are you scumreading him? Has everyone forgotten about the Clem role flip? Scum!Creature would be lurking now or frozen, because that’s exactly what he did in Heroes Wanted, when he got called out for “slipping”.

That, or he starting hyperposting really scummy shit.

He isn’t frozen and he isn’t lurking, because he’s freaking town here.

[DrewVa]

Ah, man, I’m actually getting scum vibes from the wagon forming on Creature off of reading the past page alone...

Good, not everyone has lost their freaking minds suddenly.

[DrewVa]

An hour late Creature.

Are you gonna judge me based on how long I take dining?

If you eat chicken, it means that you and Chick are linked, duh!

[Tails]

Last time I saw something like this, that person was scum. But more to the point, if Majiffy had some sort of tell that gave him an accurate scumread of Chick, and he knew that, why didn't he vote the guaranteed scum instead of avoiding the wagon?

Why did he have to vote one scum read over the other?

It's the difference of what should have been essentially confirmed scum to not so confirmed scum. In that instance, you go for the stronger read. Majiffy didn't.

@Drew: Nero doesn't need you to protect him. That he's acting otherwise is suspect.

She just said I got mislynched w/o her. What makes you think I DON'T need one of the few people that seems to understand a town Nero? Especcially in a game with a large # of scum that are going to try to lynch me. I need her now more than ever.

Town Nero would have no problem engaging with a wagon on him. He doesn't need Nancy to be his knight in shining armor. Unless you're telling me you lost all your mojo and are now a weak kitten, I don't buy this line.

[DrippingGoofball]

but you are also sitting on me while calling DGB caught scum and asking RR to claim 3p all while there's a guilty on Hebi. Like the mental gymnastics needed to think this comes from town are just impossible.

Sounds like RCE is scum.

[ruru]

votecount

With 24 alive it takes 13 to lynch.

hebichan (8):	BrightEyedFish (2861),	Creature (3174),	Wisdom (3179),	CheekyTeeky (3184),	profii (3193),	Nero Cain (3239),	hebichan (3289),	Varsoon (3291),
Nero Cain (3):	pinturicchio (2509),	Tails (2835),	RCEnigma (2874),
Reasonably Rational (2):	Fortian (2662),	Amzela (2908),
Creature (2):	Reasonably Rational (3235),	davesaz (3249),
Gamma Emerald (1):	Alonzo (2508),
DrippingGoofball (1):	BuJaber (2929),
CheekyTeeky (1):	Alchemist21 (3330),
Not voting (6):	Malakitty,	Thor665,	DrewVa (2571),	DrippingGoofball (2629),	Gamma Emerald (3003),	Flavor Leaf (3298),

(expired on 2018-12-17 18:30:00) remain.

Spoiler: mobile-friendlier

hebichan (8):

BrightEyedFish (2861), Creature (3174), Wisdom (3179), CheekyTeeky (3184), profii (3193), Nero Cain (3239), hebichan (3289), Varsoon (3291),

Nero Cain (3):

pinturicchio (2509), Tails (2835), RCEnigma (2874),

Reasonably Rational (2):

Fortian (2662), Amzela (2908),

Creature (2):

Reasonably Rational (3235), davesaz (3249),

Gamma Emerald (1):

Alonzo (2508),

DrippingGoofball (1):

BuJaber (2929),

CheekyTeeky (1):

Alchemist21 (3330),

Not voting (6):

Malakitty, Thor665, DrewVa (2571), DrippingGoofball (2629), Gamma Emerald (3003), Flavor Leaf (3298),

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: RCEnigma

[DrewVa]

Varsoon:

We would be well off with a heb lynch today. How many times do I have to hint at it?

All anti-Town players have been provided with proper fake claims.

Hmm, is it really?

Oh nvm, Clemency flipped goon

So we got the other scumteam's goon

Just in case you need a fake claim at any point; you may claim "Gabe Walker" (from: Cliffhanger 1993). You may claim your role to be a Vanilla Townie OR a Motion Detector

Creature, please explain how the last three posts of this set of quotes relate to anything that was said in close proximity to them. That is, how any of them are in any way an organic part of the posting occurring in this thread.

-Cerb

Based on the mechanics of Overkill 1, even if Creature were somehow scum here, he, still probably would not he privy to that kind of info. Your Creature push is bullshit and his wagon is gross.

[DrippingGoofball]

If Hebichan is really confscum I'll switch.

[Gamma Emerald]

Does it?

Just because I'm voting on someone doesn't mean I care if I get lynched. I'm a VT in a role madness game again.

I just want to get my scumreads out before I die.

Who said this was role madness?

[RCEnigma]

RR can you claim 3p so we can just Lynch scum today?

there's a guilty on Hebi. Why are you not calling that scum?

No there are a lot of people assuming Bef has a guilty, if Bef asks me to vote Hebi I will because he's my buddy tyvm.

[RCEnigma]

but you are also sitting on me while calling DGB caught scum and asking RR to claim 3p all while there's a guilty on Hebi. Like the mental gymnastics needed to think this comes from town are just impossible.

Or you could like.....read my posts??

[hebichan]

Does it?

Just because I'm voting on someone doesn't mean I care if I get lynched. I'm a VT in a role madness game again.

I just want to get my scumreads out before I die.

Who said this was role madness?

Its at least kill madness

[Nero Cain]

It's the difference of what should have been essentially confirmed scum to not so confirmed scum. In that instance, you go for the stronger read. Majiffy didn't.

"I have a tell!"=//=confirmed scum. Like as a recent example in COH A50 was trying to apply a tell to Wisdom. A tell is just a scum read. There's no way you believe that a tell is a confirmed guilty.

[DrewVa]

Hmm.

Actually. I sort of see a way it could be a legit not scum slip, when I put them all in a quote together like that.

:-/.

-Cerb

I don’t think you really understand the meaning of the term.

Not scumslip: what Creature actually said.

Actual scumslip: Good/bad we didn’t/did lose OUR goon

Can you see the difference?

One applies to info, that scum would actuality have, the other is extremely unlikely.

You’re on roll here, first you push town!Toog to modkill himself, now you want to likely mislynch Creature.

[Nero Cain]

Or you could like.....read my posts??

I rather just react instead of going digging. the thing is you are voting me while believing that DGB is scum but asking RR to claim 3p so we can "lynch scum today" doesn't really make sense with your belief that me and or DGB is scum.

[DrewVa]

Like, if creature is literally just talking to himself, and not actually completing any of his thoughts? :-/ I guess it could be a not-scum thing. *sigh*

-Cerb

Where in Overkill 1 did any of the scums know anything about the other ones? Mafia and traitor didn’t even know each other.

For the POV of setup logic, the scumread on Creature makes 0 sense.

[DrewVa]

VOTE: hebichan

As long as there's a guilty on me, I suppose.

Are you lolcatting?

Why would town!you ever self-vote here?

[davesaz]

UNVOTE:

3230 was the core of the supposed scumslip. That phrasing looked really out of place.
I now believe the correct interpretation is "town got a guilty on someone who claimed VT which makes this the other team's goon because that is the same as the fakeclaim given to Chick/Clemency".
It's a stretch to think that multiple teams even have corresponding roles, and a bigger stretch to think the fakeclaims would be symmetric.
But it's consistent for town Creature to say something like that.

I don't think I have ever seen a legit scumslip of this type. I have a vague impression that the people who point that kind of thing out tend to be scum more often than town, but sadly I have not been keeping notes on it.

VOTE: Hebichan

[DrewVa]

Oh. BEF guiltied her.

Ouch.

Hebichan.

Breaking my heart

Its okay, I will flip town and you can rub it in everyone's face.

VOTE: hebichan

As long as there's a guilty on me, I suppose.

Would you guys believe that I’ve just been softing Mason Lovers with Hebichan all game, and if she dies, I die, and nobody wants to lose this game’s Flavor?

Why is hebi self-voting instead of claiming mason lovers with you?

[Gamma Emerald]

VOTE: CheekyTeeky

I think Cheeky knows how both will flip and wants to get them both.

-_-

[DrewVa]

UNVOTE:

3230 was the core of the supposed scumslip. That phrasing looked really out of place.
I now believe the correct interpretation is "town got a guilty on someone who claimed VT which makes this the other team's goon because that is the same as the fakeclaim given to Chick/Clemency".
It's a stretch to think that multiple teams even have corresponding roles, and a bigger stretch to think the fakeclaims would be symmetric.
But it's consistent for town Creature to say something like that.

I don't think I have ever seen a legit scumslip of this type. I have a vague impression that the people who point that kind of thing out tend to be scum more often than town, but sadly I have not been keeping notes on it.

VOTE: Hebichan

My FOS on RR got a lot stronger from their Creature push.