Excalibur [Endgame]

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2275 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:49 pm

I'm Merlin. I know all

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2276 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:51 pm

In post 2162, DVa wrote:If we lynch Maria the sword can be claimed tonight, so if we accept that Fire is a mislynch, and Maria is not Arthur and plans to suicide anyway, then the mechnically superior option is to lynch her and let someone else claim the sword tonight. If town refuses to no lynch, and Fire is town, we should lynch Maria. Otherwise all we're doing is wasting a cycle with the sword.

The REAL Merlin needs to confirm whether or not Maria is Arthur.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2277 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:52 pm

I'm a real Merlin

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2278 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:55 pm

Scum I'm not Merlin don't kill me plz

Dunnstral · Post Post #2279 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:55 pm

As a fake Merlin I can confirm that Maria is not Arthur

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2280 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:55 pm

In post 2165, Dunnstral wrote:Also advocating to lynch the person with the sword is not a good plan

Agreed.

Because the sword holder is obviously town.

But if Maria doesn’t have it, then we need to confirm the likelihood of her claim. - that is to determine if she is telling the truth about that or not.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2281 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:59 pm

Well she resolves herself tonight regardless

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2282 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 12:59 pm

In post 2179, DVa wrote:"Fire is bad" -- Maria

"Also I fakedclaimed and got Dunn to fakeclaim on my behalf thus outing the entire power structure of the town" -- also Maria

Link?

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2283 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:02 pm

In post 2180, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ok Maria has the sword. I wanted to see what everyone's reactions would be. Lynch fire

It’s beyond game throwing to lynch obvtown. Staph it!

You said yourself he was “probably” town, so how tf does it help town to mislynch?

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2284 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:03 pm

In post 2180, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ok Maria has the sword. I wanted to see what everyone's reactions would be. Lynch fire

How are we to know, what if anything you’re saying is true here? You keep contradicting yourself.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2285 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:06 pm

In post 2193, Gamma Emerald wrote:VOTE: Firebringer
No one has seriously claimed that Fire was anything important so I’m doing this because no one thinks critically here

But he’s town. :/

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2286 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:08 pm

In post 2284, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2180, Kokichi Oma wrote:Ok Maria has the sword. I wanted to see what everyone's reactions would be. Lynch fire
How are we to know, what if anything you’re saying is true here? You keep contradicting yourself.

I think you're scum based on meta. You dont act like this as town.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2287 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:08 pm

In post 2194, DVa wrote:
In post 2193, Gamma Emerald wrote:No one has seriously claimed that Fire was anything important so I’m doing this because no one thinks critically here
vs. Maria who suddenly everyone wants to fakeclaim to protect?

Do you think Fire is scum or are you just compromising on a 'safe mislynch'?

Yeah, I don’t get how mislynching Fire helps town. I obviously get how it is good for scum obviously.

And Varsoon, please trust me on this. Fire is almost certainly flipping town here.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2288 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:09 pm

In post 2196, Kokichi Oma wrote:Quick lynch fire. This day needs to end

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2289 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:10 pm

In post 2197, Gamma Emerald wrote:
In post 2194, DVa wrote:
In post 2193, Gamma Emerald wrote:No one has seriously claimed that Fire was anything important so I’m doing this because no one thinks critically here
vs. Maria who suddenly everyone wants to fakeclaim to protect?

Do you think Fire is scum or are you just compromising on a 'safe mislynch'?
I was voting no lynch but no one wants the ACTUALLY safer option so I’m taking to damage control option

Vote, no lynch. Fire is 99.999% flipping town here.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2290 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:13 pm

In post 2198, DVa wrote:
In post 2197, Gamma Emerald wrote:I was voting no lynch but no one wants the ACTUALLY safer option so I’m taking to damage control option
Damage control is lynching Maria

Lynch Fire + Maria suicides = 2 dead town, sword unusable another day

Lynch maria = 1 dead town, sword claimed tonight, we get another inno tomorrow and can actually confirm the merlin claim

I’m hard scumreading Kokichi anyway. I still prefer a no lynch.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2291 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:15 pm

In post 2200, MariaR wrote:I'm not retracting that I have the sword so I don't know where Dva got the whole 'I fake claimed' part.

Is this a hard claim then?

If so, doubling/tripling down on people voting to

no lynch

.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2292 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:17 pm

In post 2207, Kokichi Oma wrote:Dont argue with dva. Shes obv scum

You’re trying to mislynch obvtown but okay.

Firebringer · Post Post #2293 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:18 pm

nancy i think ur stuck on repeat a bit here.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2294 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:18 pm

In post 2208, DVa wrote:Kokichi is getting lynched tomorrow, and then Dunn maybe the day after that, but today we're lynching Maria

Are you or are you not currently scumreading Maria?

and Dunn?

And yeah, Kokichi is obvscum here.

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2295 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:21 pm

In post 2211, Kokichi Oma wrote:
In post 2208, DVa wrote:Kokichi is getting lynched tomorrow, and then Dunn maybe the day after that, but today we're lynching Maria
Good luck with lynching Merlin.

IF

you’re Merlin, you mean but I think your slot is self-resolving in either case.

Kokichi Oma · Post Post #2296 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:22 pm

Laugh now. You wont laugh when my Arthur minion shoots you

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2297 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:22 pm

In post 2212, MariaR wrote:Regardless of how many people are fake claiming Dva I have the sword that's just fact.

If true and if you’re town here, vote no lynch.

MariaR · Post Post #2298 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:23 pm

In post 2291, Nancy Drew 39 wrote:
In post 2200, MariaR wrote:I'm not retracting that I have the sword so I don't know where Dva got the whole 'I fake claimed' part.
Is this a hard claim then?

If so, doubling/tripling down on people voting to
no lynch
.

yes it's a hard claim

Nancy Drew 39 · Post Post #2299 (ISO) » Sat Dec 08, 2018 1:26 pm

In post 2214, DVa wrote:
In post 2210, Dunnstral wrote:So people were fake claiming to protect her, but she also has the sword and is confirmed town, from your point of view

What are you even arguing, you brought up the fake claim thing like it was a reason to lynch her
Because it is.

Dunn.

Keep up.

Scenario 1: She has the sword. OK, too bad she didn't claim earlier, but Fire is town, so mislynching her let's someone else get the sword tonight. Our goal as town is to confirm as many people as possible and to form a strong townblock. Mislynching town only for another town to suicide with the sword is giving scum MULTIPLE free kills. Mislynching fire + Maria suicide + scum nightkill = 3 dead town; mislynching Maria + scum nightkill =2 dead town.

Scenario 2: She does not have the sword. She forced a counter-claim, and you and Kokichi both tried to hard defend her based on a fakeclaim. In this scenario, she is scum and should be lynched; if she is town, she should have grabbed the sword last night.

Now, we could go back to no lynch, or we could lynch Maria, but lynching Fire is awful play here if people are townreading him.

I still think no lynch is the most pro-town option but yeah, lynching Fire is beyond dumb.

I think if this is a TvT, we should always no lynch.