Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[Flavor Leaf]

@Flavor: Why would I push you back? I don't see you as scummy as RR, Varsoon, or even DGB, and I see no reason why you can't be figured out later.

Oh, and I guessed.

Yeah, I wasn’t in the game enough tbh. My Last Night Tomorrow I went and ISO dove everyone, obviously I didn’t spend too much time on everyone, but I did do a good skim, and it helped remember things.

[Wisdom]

You think profii is lying or?

@fl

[Flavor Leaf]

You think profii is lying or?

@fl

About being a cop? Yeah, he’s lying.

If that’s not what you were referring to, point it out for me. I’m a little mentally drained from a long day on set and then my Last Night Tomorrow.

[Wisdom]

That and having a result on gamma, yeah

[davesaz]

davesaz -- his comment about cheeky has me thinking; feel a little bit like he's specifically trying to hunt group scum while not really getting on anyone's radar

-DVa

I have a feeling this is another logic fail.
This post?

I'm voting preferably outside the Chickadee wagon

You do get that this is multiball right? I may be biased but it's more likely there are scum ON the wagon with how long it was a thing for and how frozen Clemency was, giving no reads or analysis near the end.

Other team scum wouldn't make this post.
Same team or town would.

SK's are "other team" -- it's a team of one, but still a team. When doing VCA in multiball, whether 2 groups or 1 group +SK, generally speaking "other team" looks like town.
The correct way to interpret my post was that I didn't expect a other team player to say that scum are on the wagon because other team are more likely to be there.
It turns out I'm wrong about that both factually and strategically. Group scum know if their faction is there or not, and therefore have motivation to suggest ON the wagon if they are not.
The new interpretation of this post given flips is that it is likely that Cheeky team are not on the Chick/Clemency wagon, or if there are any on the wagon they are heavily townread.
So off that wagon is indeed a good place to look.

Pedit: The shameless plug is going to get quite annoying if you keep it up.

[davesaz]

EBWOP: Generally speaking I was thinking that other team looks like town for VCA -- which is true but doesn't apply to what they say about the wagon.

[Flavor Leaf]

The shameless plug on the Last Night Tomorrow?

I’m actually basing my game title off my play. I’ve done it on site about 10+ times, just hadn’t in a while, if that’s what you were referring to.

Plus, Gamma’s been asking me to do it in multiple games over the past months, so thought this would be a good game for it.

[Flavor Leaf]

That and having a result on gamma, yeah

He might have a result. He doesn’t have a guilty.

[profii]

That and having a result on gamma, yeah

He might have a result. He doesn’t have a guilty.

If I have a guilty should I hard claim cop and trade scum gamma 1 for 1 cop profii ?

[Tails]

I still don't get what Profii is trying to say about the bus driver. But I don't think that kind of logic comes from scum.

[Flavor Leaf]

That and having a result on gamma, yeah

He might have a result. He doesn’t have a guilty.

If I have a guilty should I hard claim cop and trade scum gamma 1 for 1 cop profii ?

I mean, yes, but you don’t.

[profii]

Stop what?

You’re just doing your night 1 always target FL thing, but had you targeted me, you’d be dead.

Lol You’re right I have no result

sure?

[profii]

anyway, don't answer that - lynch gamma and just revel in my glory for just one time, that's all I ask

[Tails]

I'm not interested in vague guilties after the last two days.

[BuJaber]

I'm surprised by alch's death. Why would scum shoot someone who like BEF had a false result?

What false result?

He could not have known if his result was tainted or not.
Nobody could have predicted the flips coming today or another day. Therefore had alchemist not died and nero not been flipped, alchemist had no reasonable excuse for making us lynch a townie.

i still dislike gamma thor and amzela
I think theres at least one scum in rr/dave based on how cheeky put it
I dont like bu's obsession with dgb but I don't like dgb either
I dont like that fl didnt shoot someone scummy

bleh

I agree with not liking gamma, thor or amzela.

I think dave/rr are probably both town though.

I suspected one of you vs RR is scum. I thought RR was sketchy for not responding to you but now holy moly your 180 makes no sense at all.

SvS is back on the table you just outed your partner buddy

VOTE: fortian
If this is scum lynch RR

[Tails]

Or you can vote RR.

[Fortian]

Not going to go into other than we have

strong

mechanical reasons that suggest that RR is town here.

[Fortian]

I haven't read bits and pieces of D2/D3, not really going to bother to until later in the day phase but I know that DV's planning on catching up tonight and probably will ping me asking me to read some peoples ISO's and give him my thoughts then. My sort of ~rough~ place where I'm at based on the bits and pieces I have read though is that Flavor Leaf / RR / DrewVa / Dave / Pint are pretty much the town reads I'm pretty happy with. Still kind of think Profii / BuJaber are town, kind of haven't really town read Wisdoms play but have nodded along with most of what he's saying and aren't really interested in considering there at all. Kinda think Varsoon/Tails might be worth a re-look but other think all of DGB/Gamma/Thor/Amzela are people that are where the main focus should be.

[Fortian]

Think out of all those names Amzela is probably the most likely to be with Cheeky and Gamma/DGB/Tails very unlikely.

Varsoon/Thor aren't possible to be with her but less likely.

[Fortian]

aren't impossible*

And that's enough ~thoughts~ for now, I'll probably do a Chickadee/Clemency ISO at some point and try and make a list of ~people~ that fit with both of them (ie. most likely to just outright hit scum in general slots) later this day phase.

[Gamma Emerald]

In Clemencys role flip it says
You still are a member of a group of kids forming a street gang,
and it also says:
but at the same time you have to face some serious new problems

going against major crime forces,

professional killers, and law enforcement officers alike.


and then, Cheeky Teeky says:
eliminated all competition
and specifically, Mafia in the actual role.



i still say multiball.

Yeah I question this too
Why did Clemency’s flip have so much flavor but everything since looks so poorly written?
I have a very scary proposition about why but it’s pretty off-the-wall

[Gamma Emerald]

Also, first thought right now is that BEF received Alonzo's N1 results, saw a guilty, claimed a guilty(to communicate the guilty to whoever the cop was), and that's basically it.

Which, coupled with the likelihood that Alonzo's initial vote was on his cop target means...

VOTE: Gamma

+ existance of a Busdriver =

VOTE: Gamma

/sheeping

...?

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm not sure why Alonzo's result even matters here; we've only had one vanilla flip out of what, like 10 people? Doesn't make Gamma guilty but I'd like to see a stronger "Gamma is scum" argument than "Alonzo showed him as non-vanilla" which tells us almost nothing -- DVa

Wait what
I thought there was a cop guilty on me and the mention of bus driver made me think it was bus driven somehow
But if it’s a vanilla cop “guilty” then why the fuck would that dictate votes now...?

[Gamma Emerald]

Alonzo showed him as non-vanilla" which tells us almost nothing -- DVa

not removing my vote without a claim then

And why is that?
Claim vanilla town btw, but this is rather shady because it’s rolefishing

[profii]

I'm not sure why Alonzo's result even matters here; we've only had one vanilla flip out of what, like 10 people? Doesn't make Gamma guilty but I'd like to see a stronger "Gamma is scum" argument than "Alonzo showed him as non-vanilla" which tells us almost nothing -- DVa

Wait what
I thought there was a cop guilty on me and the mention of bus driver made me think it was bus driven somehow
But if it’s a vanilla cop “guilty” then why the fuck would that dictate votes now...?

I have a guilty on you