no deadlines mafia [game over]

[TheBrie]

It means "don't investigate me."

Invest = investigate. I shouls have realized that, but instead my mind went to banking. Thanks.

VOTE: Kokichi

Varsoon feels like noncaring town. Bad wagon.

Awful posts. Didnt explain the vote on me or why varsoon felt like uncaring town. This could be scum trying to WK varsoon. Hmm

What's WK mean? I've still not got a handle on all the terms people use.

definitely some scum on this wagon

Are you say that because you don't think the wagon would get this far with only town, or because you suspect anyone in particular? (oh, cheeky asked while I was writing the post. Well he's a list of who is on the wagon. You're welcome.)
If I counted right, there's four votes on Varsoon.
Profii didn't have the best reasoning, Sheep is town in my mind, Kokichi I have trouble reading partly because I don't like his name or avatar, or something, I really don't understand it. And Jaylow's vote seemed opportunistic, and it's lacking in reasons. Basically he said Varsoon is responsible for the two things we've talked about.

Field and fountain, Moor and mountain, Following yonder Star.

[TheBrie]

Yes varsoon. What will you do? Do you know why I voted you?

'cus I'm awesome and you're mean
I dunno man.
It's a 24p game and my role is "You can talk to people privately about smash bros"
like
care

Is that really your role? On top of the neighbour thing? I am skeptical.

[CheekyTeeky]

I'm liable to believe that at least one of the four people in my PT is scum, which is why I decided to out the PT in the first place.
That said, it's a fallacy to assume that the same ratio of town to scum in the main thread applies to any PT, so I'd prefer we didn't hunt out of that PT group.

VOTE: Profii

nah I didn't think this was RVS at the time because I did something and Varsoon voted me for it - that's not random.

It's arguably low-info voting stage, which is how I like to deal with RVS which is why I said we are "emerging" from truly random into "low info" where the cases are generally poop but the game gets going.

That being said, we have to start somewhere, so we have the quote above and the quote below

'cus it's a fallacy to assume the same ratios exist within a neighborhood.
If we're all town in there and I make the mistake of assuming one of us is scum, then I have a 100% chance of mislynching if I concentrate there, whereas the game thread ALWAYS has the assured setup ratio.
And I know if I mislynch in there I'll sunk cost it and keep lynching in there
and if they all flip town then I know I'm up shit creek for being the last one left.
Does that make sense?

we also have 15 where Varsoon basically says "there is a hood"

It was ME that suggested there could be scum in the hood in my haste when I thought we had deadlines to which, Varsoon made post 49...

he says

"I'm liable to believe that at least one of the four people in my PT is scum"

what does "I'm liable to believe" even mean? kinda feels a bit like he's saying "it'll be you lot that leads me into lynching within the hood, not me pushing it" almost a bit "not my fault we mislynched" so you could _conclude_ he is shifting blame for inevitable mislynches - how we he know if it's a mislynch? if he is scum in the hood

so I don't like that turn of phrase.

So then he goes a bit further into the logical fallacy of it all - which is true but, given the vibe I'm getting from above it again comes over as "yeah sure hunt in the hood if you want, but I aint leading that shit because I wont get stitched up for that mislynch, so I suggest hunting outside the hood, which puts me at a lot less risk"

again this phrase:

"And I know if I mislynch in there I'll sunk cost it and keep lynching in there"

he is right - if we restrict the lynch pool and commit to lynching in the hood, we _could_ end up doubling down


so yeah I don't like this at all

VOTE: Varsoon

VOTE: varsoon

Ladies and gentlemen. We got em

Because of the bad post I quoted last time I was on. I forgot to vote him

so im basically caught up

it was a quick skim with breaks in between so i prolly missed things but theres a depressingly low amount of exciting things actually happening and all of my thoughts on players are weaker than i'd like

stronger reads that i feel ok with rn are vonflare, cheeky as villagers and pretty uncomfortable with varsoon

VOTE: varsoon

have some iso's that i want to look at later once school is out

So this has started...

I will in general be most active on the weekends until the end of the year. The holiday season is always super busy for me.

No real reads yet except one, not much of note has been said beyond the neighborhood claim and recent setup spec discussion, by the same person...

who is the one person I have a solid read on right now.

VOTE: Varsoon

I think this is the whole wagon. The AVarsoons.

[Nancy Drew 39]

I know why and i remember kokichi being on it
And a guy i don't know

How do you read Kokichi here?

[CheekyTeeky]

I know why and i remember kokichi being on it
And a guy i don't know

Why do you think there's "definitely" scum there?

[TheBrie]

Re-reading Profii's argument it sounds better than it had before I think I must have only skimmed it before. I'm not say he's right, but he sounds sort of convincing.

Those of you who bless the poor will yourselves find blessing.

[Wisdom]

The reasoning has been awful

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't know why but Kokichi's "I forgot to vote him" is pinging me as uncharacteristic. Not sure I like his reaction - accusing me of WK'ing is pretty funny. Even if it were logical to WK (White Knight @Brie) in multiball I don't see how that benefits my position as scum sticking my neck out that early.

[CheekyTeeky]

you win once no members of opposing factions are alive.

members of opposing factions

opposing factions

factions

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I wonder if scum got the same wincon? Otherwise this seems town spewy.

[CheekyTeeky]

Actually I think it was a townslip - don't think scum reveals that.

[Wisdom]

sample town role pm

[CheekyTeeky]

Oh derp. I looked for one and missed it at the bottom. Was looking for a spoiler. Well there goes that theory >.>

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't know why but Kokichi's "I forgot to vote him" is pinging me as uncharacteristic. Not sure I like his reaction - accusing me of WK'ing is pretty funny. Even if it were logical to WK (White Knight @Brie) in multiball I don't see how that benefits my position as scum sticking my neck out that early.

Forgetting to vote is scummy now. Thanks. I'll add that to my checklist.

[Kokichi Oma]

Is this confirmed multi ball or are we speculating?

[Wisdom]

speculating but it prolly is

[sheepsaysmeep]

that doesnt actually confirm multiball in any way?

it's very technical but that could be translated as "members of any potentially existing opposing factions"

[CheekyTeeky]

I don't know why but Kokichi's "I forgot to vote him" is pinging me as uncharacteristic. Not sure I like his reaction - accusing me of WK'ing is pretty funny. Even if it were logical to WK (White Knight @Brie) in multiball I don't see how that benefits my position as scum sticking my neck out that early.

Forgetting to vote is scummy now. Thanks. I'll add that to my checklist.

No forgetting to vote is fine, explaining you forgot to vote seems unnecessary.

[sheepsaysmeep]

going to make this disgusting read but cheeky is 95% angleshot town after that exchange

[Wisdom]

agreed

[CheekyTeeky]

that doesnt actually confirm multiball in any way?

it's very technical but that could be translated as "members of any potentially existing opposing factions"

I'd be surprised if a game this size didn't at least have 3 factions in it even if it's just Scum v Town v 3p.

[sheepsaysmeep]

that doesnt actually confirm multiball in any way?

it's very technical but that could be translated as "members of any potentially existing opposing factions"

I'd be surprised if a game this size didn't at least have 3 factions in it even if it's just Scum v Town v 3p.

some 80 player mashes have one main scumteam

[CheekyTeeky]

going to make this disgusting read but cheeky is 95% angleshot town after that exchange

Yay I accept my nomination for 1st NK. Thank you.

Pedit: Jfc lol..

[Kokichi Oma]

I don't know why but Kokichi's "I forgot to vote him" is pinging me as uncharacteristic. Not sure I like his reaction - accusing me of WK'ing is pretty funny. Even if it were logical to WK (White Knight @Brie) in multiball I don't see how that benefits my position as scum sticking my neck out that early.

Forgetting to vote is scummy now. Thanks. I'll add that to my checklist.

No forgetting to vote is fine, explaining you forgot to vote seems unnecessary.

But someone asked..? Want me to just be mysterious instead

[CheekyTeeky]

But someone asked..? Want me to just be mysterious instead

Well that's the point. You usually are iirc.

[sheepsaysmeep]

But someone asked..? Want me to just be mysterious instead

Well that's the point. You usually are iirc.

can you go more into depth about this read on him being less clear

preferably with examples