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Post Post #375 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:28 am

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Okay. Who DO you scumread, though?
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Post Post #376 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:51 am

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I'm willing to jump on the DDL wagon (when/if he comes back) even though it doesn't really make sense to me..
In post 374, BrightEyedFish wrote:I don't know if he is trying to use AtE to get people off of him and its having the opposite effect or what
Pretty much this- I think scum is way too classy to AtE, especially come D1...
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Post Post #377 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:53 am

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And how is NC obv scum?
In post 348, Nero Cain wrote:Dual ISO us and tell me what you think.
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Post Post #378 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 5:54 am

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In post 376, Vorkuta wrote:Pretty much this- I think scum is way too classy to AtE, especially come D1..
they aren't :?
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Post Post #379 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:01 am

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I'd like to push for a Yyotta D-1 lynch.

-She'll basically only stop by to prod dodge
-Completely refuse to interact with us
-and If she says LITERALLY ANYTHING in her defense I'll drop it.

It's an extremely frustrating slot to deal with, and if anything the support for/against her will give town something to go on.
In post 180, OkaPoka wrote:where did YyottaCat go
In post 338, OkaPoka wrote:Yyotta could you walk me through your thought process?
In post 292, OkaPoka wrote:Yyotta how are you feeling about this game?
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Post Post #380 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:15 am

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In post 376, Vorkuta wrote:I'm willing to jump on the DDL wagon (when/if he comes back) even though it doesn't really make sense to me..
y would u?
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #381 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:29 am

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I could lynch every one of the posters from the last two pages, this is going to be a long game.
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Post Post #382 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:33 am

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Vorkuta: who is scum?
I'm willing to jump on the DDL wagon (when/if he comes back) even though
it doesn't really make sense to me
..
TvT
-and If she says LITERALLY ANYTHING in her defense I'll drop it.
The third quote is the most important because it means you're pushing YYotta on policy rather than scumhunting principles. Nothing inherently wrong with that nor am I against a policy on her as I've stated, but your push that you'd "like to do" is not somebody you scumread as you handwave away the current 1v1 going on. I have not mentioned that you are currently voting Suka, the person you're dismissing as town, and not YYotta, the person you'd like to lynch supposedly.
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Post Post #383 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:35 am

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In post 354, Nero Cain wrote:I rather lynch Suka or Mbaki
u wanna talk about this supposed scum read on me?
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Post Post #384 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:40 am

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If Suka is scum, I don't believe its from anything to do with why Nero Cain is scumreading them.

My townreads that I have any confidence in right now are KMD, Creature, and RB. I state this to make it clear Suka does not fall into the townread category. If Suka does end up being scum, at least in Nero Cain's case it will be caught for the wrong reasons though.
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Post Post #385 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:48 am

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In post 382, mbaki wrote:YYotta on policy rather than scumhunting principles.
And I don't claim otherwise. It's just as you say-
In post 381, mbaki wrote:I could lynch every one of the posters from the last two pages
I could dig up quotes that dinged my scum radar on almost every player here and that just makes this game waay too hard to figure out. I don't see the grounds or the foundations for the nc, suka, DDL, and fish, scum accusations. Maybe there's way too much friendly/meta interaction going on (disclaimer- played only with varsoon and yyotta here in newbie games before before) but I can't find anyone to build up my town core with.
So I'd like to get a quick lynch and move on to night stage for when PRs can truly shine.

Bring the hate :cool:
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Post Post #386 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 6:51 am

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In post 382, mbaki wrote:you are currently voting Suka, the person you're dismissing as town, and not YYotta
Sorry, that was just me wagon hopping.

If I can get a Yyotta
policy
wagon going, then I'll get on it.
Otherwise I'll just park my vote nowhere until someone registers on my scum radar beyond a reasonable doubt.
UNVOTE:
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Post Post #387 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:05 am

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Can’t you start the policy wagon yourself?
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Post Post #388 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:28 am

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Will you join me on it, or would you rather let the game play out and scumhunt?
I'm worried that I just won't have any takers as the veteran players here are getting quite heated.

Also- I'm just curious as to whether she'll even ACKNOWLEDGE this without being at L-2 or L-1.
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Post Post #389 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:35 am

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Probably wouldn’t. But you can try!
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Post Post #390 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 9:36 am

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Reassuring.
Any other takers (aside from the 2 already on it?)
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Post Post #391 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 10:59 am

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mbaki, why don't you townread me despite having the same reaction to Nero's posting?
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Post Post #392 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:33 am

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Creature is right. This is a newbie game.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #393 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:53 am

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Okay, that means I won’t have to argue against more experienced people as much! Yes!
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Post Post #394 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 11:56 am

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but I'm the IC. What are we going to argue about?
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Post Post #395 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:28 pm

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So I vote Suka in . It was a blank vote but my reasoning was that she had laid down two naked RVS type votes and I felt she was a little scummy for them.

Suka calls me, DDL and Oka scum in post

DDL naked votes me in . Then reaffirms his scum read in

Suka votes me in . Still no justification for why she's scum reading me.
In post 137, Suka wrote:
In post 118, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: DrDolittle

Also a good vote.
Why not Nero?
my first response to this was that she can't believe that DDL is scum if she's trying to get votes off him and onto me. Regardless its a weird reaction to seeing someone you think is scum getting voted.

Continues to call me scum in and .

Creature's content is terrible but I assume that Suka and mbaki are meta reading him as town b/c he has a string of posts.
In post 311, Suka wrote:nd his follow-up misread
This is kinda TMIy.

So, she hasn't justified why she was scum reading me pre-114 and she hasn't explained why if she was scumreading both me and DDL she wanted Varsoon to vote me instead of DDL.So I vote Suka in . It was a blank vote but my reasoning was that she had laid down two naked RVS type RVS and I felt she was a little scummy for them,

Suka calls me, DDL and Oka scum in post

DDL naked votes me in . Then reaffirms his scum read in

Suka votes me in . Still no justification for why she's scum reading me.
In post 137, Suka wrote:
In post 118, Varsoon wrote:VOTE: DrDolittle

Also a good vote.
Why not Nero?
my first response to this was that she can't believe that DDL is scum if she's trying to get votes off him and onto me. Regardless its a wierd reaction to seeing someone you think is scum getting voted.

Continues to call me scum in and .

Creature's content is terrible but I assume that Suka and mbaki are meta reading him as town b/c he has a string of posts.
In post 311, Suka wrote:nd his follow-up
misread
This is kinda TMIy and chainsawy. Town misread each other all the time so why am I scummy for it?

So, she hasn't justified why she was scum reading me pre-114 and she hasn't explained why if she was scumreading both me and DDL she wanted Varsoon to vote me instead of DDL. So yeah, I'm ok with this lynch.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #396 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:41 pm

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I just think Suka has a scum mindset of being not transparent and overly conf-biasing.
I don't think there needs to be more reason than that.

but cool post nonetheless
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Post Post #397 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:45 pm

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that kinda fucked up a little, i'll fix it in a bit
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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Post Post #398 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:46 pm

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What's wrong with TMIy tho?
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Post Post #399 (ISO) » Thu Dec 13, 2018 12:50 pm

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im saying that her restounding town read of Creature is b/c she's scum that knows he's town.
Of all tyrannies,a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end they do so with the approval of their own conscience.

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