A Story Revisited (Anything uPick): Day 6

[sheepsaysmeep]

i thought this slot was a fuckign wolf asdf

[northsidegal]

why? how much of the game did you read or know about?

[sheepsaysmeep]

can someone give me a post with cliffs on claims/stuff

heads up im busy because finals are next week

are there any iso's i should read first as priority

[sheepsaysmeep]

why? how much of the game did you read or know about?

i would have subbed in anyway because rc game but i roughly skimmed my slot's iso and remember reading it pretty strongly wolf

[Lady Angel]

Does your role involve Nihilism?

[Vecna]

Okay I realised my result on Lady Angel is now compatible

oh?

[Vecna]

I mean, we have a lot of conftown and very close to that still, sk if we take out these and the people jn this plan (obv) we are left with Sheepsaysmeep, Vecna, Lady Angel, Jingle, jjh927, Shoshin as a lynchpool. I dont remember the claims for most of them, but by play sheep's slot was bad. Id give them a bit to catch up though. Lady may be good, and Vecna is really flip floppy for me because while he may have blocked a kill or two, his confidence in that is odd and his role would be better as scum with the setup at hand. Jingle is alright for now with a harmless claim and good play at points, and jjh is deathproof or whatever so not scum unless that's their advantageous role.

If youre using this logic, then why am I more likely scum than a Nero? stopping two nightkills vs killing one of your own teammembers? We dont even know how his role works. Whose to say he wasnt compelled to kill his teammember?

[Vecna]

The only unclaimed slots in the game right now or Sheep/Porkens and NSG, so the roleblocker has to be in there unless somebody is lying? The only unproven role is Shoshin's right now.

I have serious doubts in it being NSG since the roleblocker's been very scummy.

Also, there isn't a redirector.

Your role is not proven

[Vecna]

Also, did firebringer invite you twice in a row? You both tracked and voyeured right?

You can't have JK'd FB, I just realized.

Vecna slipped up.

Oh now shit is getting interesting. I slipped up huh?

[Vecna]

Service with a Smile (Modified Inventor): Everyone you neighbourize will be able to choose to take limited watcher, tracker, or voyeur actions until all have been taken, then the availability resets.

You will perform these actions

, but not receive the results: your customer will receive the results directly.

I got results. FB wasn't roleblocked.

You got results both N4 and N5?

[Jingle]

Service with a Smile (Modified Inventor): Everyone you neighbourize will be able to choose to take limited watcher, tracker, or voyeur actions until all have been taken, then the availability resets.

You will perform these actions

, but not receive the results: your customer will receive the results directly.

I got results. FB wasn't roleblocked.

You got results both N4 and N5?

Yes.

On N4 I received a track of LA going nowhere.
Last night I received a voyeur of Meme Men having been roleblocked and targeted by a miscellaneous action.

[Vecna]

That is.....all kinds of interesting. Im pretty sure that either confirms that youre scum, or that Porkens in a scum redirector that fucked up in revealing he targeted me last night.

Still remains the question; to what was I redirected then?

Because N5 my target had a dialogue option, but it did not have that N4. Meaning its quite likely two different persons.

[Jingle]

Profii

, Deathproof ish Nighttalker.

Northsidegal

, ?
Shoshin,

Delayed Entrance

BG
Creature, A-Cop
Nero Cain,

Smiter of Inactivities

jjh927,

Votefreezing

Deathproof
Vecna,

Loud JK

Reflexive Music Vendor
Jingle,

Pizza Vendor

(Tracker-lite)
Lady Angel, Dreaming God
Aristophanes,

Hider

Gamma Emerald,

Babbysitter

Meme,

Parity Cop

Double Voting

Gladiate Winner
Porkens ?

Blue is publically confirmed to exist.
Pink is meh confirmed to exist, or pending something mechanically calling it Bullshit.

We're missing the roleblocker.

@Sheep. I believe this is the most accurate list of roles for unflipped players. My ISO is probably one of the more valuable ones, but also one of the longest. If you're going to read a significant portion of the game, I'd start when Shoshin dropped in. Before that it was largely a mechanical slog.

[Vecna]

Regardless, you stated like 10 times I was probably responsible for stopping the kill N4. How did your mechanical understanding not put 1+1 together if you did get a result? Because after everything ive seen in this game, I find that very hard to believe.

And I also have to believe as scum that youre smart enough to know that if youre gonna engage me here, and you and pork are in fact the last two remaining scum, itll all be over soon.

[Vecna]

engage me as in a throwdown about who is lying.

[Vecna]

But at the same time as scum you would know you didnt get a result N$, so acting it out this way and faking it would also be all kinds of stupid.

[Vecna]

why? how much of the game did you read or know about?

i would have subbed in anyway because rc game but i roughly skimmed my slot's iso and remember reading it pretty strongly wolf

Hey sheep, the most important thing is that you just claim your role. We can take it from there.

Also, ask RC for the results from last night. Those right now are pivotal for the rest of us to decide whether your scum or not.

If youre town, the best course of action is to reveal everything asap, so we can set out to solve wtf happened.

[Vecna]

So Jingle, can you point me to any post where you stated you got a tracking result while firebringer was still alive?

[Vecna]

Cool. So, we've got

JJ proves his role
NSG responds to parity guilty
Vizzy flip

Lynch

on the docket for today. Anyone see a reason we shouldn't have this dayphase wrapped up before Monday?

Shosh asked for an update on my reads.

Adelbert Steiner- conf via mastina, probably responsible for no kill last night
Firebringer- conf via mastina

Vecna- Probably responsible for the missing kill N2. Possibly responsible for the missing kill tonight. Probably town.
Creature- Probably town from the derpguilty on mastina.

jjh927- Not scum with NR. Want to see reactions today. Very doubtful imo that 3 of the members of the scumteam have 'I'm gonna fuck with the ability of town to vote' roles, so if his role is confirmed low priority sort.
Porkens- Not scum with NR. Interested to hear reasons he's town independent of that.
NSG- Not scum with NR.
Nicorobin- I dislike the surety of the flip preflip. Reads as TMI to me.

Jingle- Me.

That leaves a probable 2-5 scum in the following:

Shoshin- Not on the lynch table without 3 more scumflips.
The Meme Men
Nero Cain
Gamma Emerald
Aristophanes
Lady Angel
Whemestar

Gamma is the null line in the last group.

This is the only real post involving LA during the time after you supposedly got a track result on LA showing no visit, and firebringer dying.

Why was she your 2nd strongest scumread if you knew she didnt visit anyone?

[Jingle]

Because tracker innos mean nothing unless you only have one scum left, and we provably had at least two?

Also, I claimed my results in the neighborhood because not letting scum know what actions remained on Fire's claimed role was optimal and I had no reason to believe both of us could die.

I only realized that Fire being roleblocked meant I wouldn't have gotten a result recently; I had wrongly assumed that it operated as a normal inventor does.

[Vecna]

Ok, so what I think has happened this game;

Porkens is scum redirector. The shit that happened N1 was some sort of stupid Mastina plan to make NicoRobin look good. Having Porkens refuse to reveal being a redirector, then flipping the slot later on would make NR look very good. The same thing with the Mastina Death tunnel. She was initially supposed to go the distance. Jingle could very well be part of this crap. Its pretty likely, but not completely required. The claim that NR was redirected from JJH onto Jingle could be further part of some weird ass plan. Last night when I jailkept Porkens, he fucked up in revealing the wrong message. He shouldve received my visit message, but instead he revealed he got the message that confirmed he instead visited me. He never even stated that he got a msg that I visited his house and messed it up. (Profii, you can ask the mod for that message, so you can see what it should say. Kuroi received it N1). Jingle or whomever is their teammate probably went ballistic in scumchat, causing Porkens to have had enough after all the weird plans and stuff he was forced to go along with. Replace out at such a weird moment is the consequence. Further evidence for this lies in the fact Jingle has been trying really hard today to move along, not wait for the porkens claim, try to put other stupid plans in motion resolving around totally different people.

Everything seems to point to this being a very real possibility. Mastina was hard-defending the Jingle/Ginngie slot but always refusing to go into details. The same was true for the Porkens slot. She also refused to gladiate jingle while he WAS IN FACT at L-1. And now Jingle is making a claim that he somehow wasnt aware of Firebringer being jailkept N4, even though he repeatedly stated that I was probably the one causing the N4 kill to not go through. You can check this in his iso. In every readslist he did on that day, he heavily townread me and stated that I likely stopped the kill N4.

There is a bunch of other alternatives, but this seems to be the most plausible one in my mind. Note also that NR was constantly talking about a redirector, so its not unlikely the scum team does in fact have one.

[Vecna]

Because tracker innos mean nothing unless you only have one scum left, and we provably had at least two?

Also, I claimed my results in the neighborhood because not letting scum know what actions remained on Fire's claimed role was optimal and I had no reason to believe both of us could die.

I only realized that Fire being roleblocked meant I wouldn't have gotten a result recently; I had wrongly assumed that it operated as a normal inventor does.

So you honestly think me as scum would draw your attention to that fact? Repeatedly?

[Vecna]

Whatever happened, you better help me force the truth out of the replacement for porkens, or youre going down very hard with that slot.

I really dont see any other explanation here that does not at least have you or porkens or both as scum.

[Vecna]

Also, I need to know who received my visit. If you got the flavour that I visited your house, please state so.

I’ll see you in hell?

@Creature, this should also hard-confirm to you that Porkens visited me last night. So please get in here and state it

[Jingle]

Whatever happened, you better help me force the truth out of the replacement for porkens, or youre going down very hard with that slot.

I really dont see any other explanation here that does not at least have

you or porkens or both as scum

.

I see one. You're scum.

Agreed, sheep needs to claim.

My not caring enough to get Porkens to claim is pretty simple: getting Porkens to confirm the wording on NR's action took like 4 days, and he was probtown.