Open 741: Red Flag [Endgame]


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Post Post #1375 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:11 am

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In post 1373, Aster wrote:
In post 1352, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I feel like AG is right that sorting them is a good move rn and since they would call attention to themselves as either alignment I don't see anything to give me immediate pause
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Are you seriously suggesting we lynch nullsomething just to sort them? Seriously? SERIOUSLY?

Surely you remember that if town is lynched today, tomorrow will by LyLo requiring five unanimous town votes to not lose? And that even if we were to lynch scum tomorrow, we would just have another LyLo the day after?
So you think AG is scum
And think I am scum
But don’t think I think AG is scum?
That makes no sense, wouldn’t I KNOW it’s a scumflip?
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Post Post #1376 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:22 am

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Aster to be honest from my point of view, from someone who has been harping on this for days, literal days, it looks like RC caught your buddy and now you are trying to start a competing wagon. Like what the hell. I was clawing for that lynch and now you decide that it’s time to believe me, only after a wagon on PP starts up? That’s literally the only thing that’s changed.
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Post Post #1377 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:23 am

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Like I’m not fucking stupid, or at least I’d like to think so. That seems super transparent, what just happened.
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Post Post #1378 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:29 am

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In post 1371, PenguinPower wrote:Here it comes...

The avatar...

Dear god...
no need to call me God
i appreciate the respect being shown but it really is unnecessary
you can call me Mr. TTTT
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Post Post #1379 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:30 am

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I'll get to this game either late tonight or sometime tomorrow morning

any recaps are appreciated
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Post Post #1380 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:41 am

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lol, I wanted to vote aster for being such a fast typer but not responding, but she seems to write posts in batches as town:

Subject: Newbie 1817 - Bolo (Game Over)

her vote does feel agenda-y though
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Post Post #1381 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:42 am

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I will be very sad if aster is scum because she has felt super pure to me all game
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Post Post #1382 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:42 am

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It feels contrived. And shit I was voting him.
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Post Post #1383 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:43 am

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In post 1381, RadiantCowbells wrote:I will be very sad if aster is scum because she has felt super pure to me all game
Well if PP flips red you’re going to have to face that possibility
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Post Post #1384 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:45 am

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In post 1375, Gamma Emerald wrote:But don’t think I think AG is scum?
Indeed, I don't think you think that.
In post 1352, Gamma Emerald wrote:Because I feel like AG is right that sorting them is a good move rn and since
they would call attention to themselves as either alignment
I don't see anything to give me immediate pause
First, this is part of the very post I quoted and the reason you stated for voting AnonymousGhost. If you believed that you were out for lynching scum who was not an ally, then you would be putting the burden of lynching on "AG is scum and...", not on "it's NAI but...".

Second, in post you already jump off the wagon after a "mite of thought", continuing your pattern of loosely doing whatever is convenient. I do not think that you had significant conviction for wanting to get AnonymousGhost lynched.
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Post Post #1385 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:45 am

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I refuse

If she's scum I shall lynch one of her scumbuddies and then not read the victory flip

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Post Post #1386 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:46 am

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In post 1376, LolWagons wrote:Aster to be honest from my point of view, from someone who has been harping on this for days, literal days, it looks like RC caught your buddy and now you are trying to start a competing wagon. Like what the hell. I was clawing for that lynch and now you decide that it’s time to believe me, only after a wagon on PP starts up? That’s literally the only thing that’s changed.
No, the thing that happened were posts through . I am sure that you've noticed a pattern in my reads so far in that almost everyone is null until I have a concrete reason to believe they're scum? It was post that pinged me "this active lurking can't be town".

I had been mostly ignoring the Gamma Emerald wagon (among others) because (1) it consisted mostly out of metareads and feelreads, with the only real takeaway for somebody without meta&feel like me being "Gamma Emerald is an active lurker" which is somewhat scummy but not very strong, (2) it was supported by scumread mastina, (3) I didn't have a whole lot of time the past week.
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Post Post #1387 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:47 am

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In post 1385, RadiantCowbells wrote:I refuse

If she's scum I shall lynch one of her scumbuddies and then not read the victory flip

Aster will be forever town in my heart
If Aster is scum I won’t trust your ability to read her in the future :D
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Post Post #1388 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:48 am

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You're not allowed to tell me or allow me to learn via deductive reason based on your treatment of my aster reads in future games if she's scum
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Post Post #1389 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:49 am

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What is this game?
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Post Post #1390 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:52 am

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a mad house that's what
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Post Post #1391 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:53 am

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@aster

y don't u think gamma could be bussing me?
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Post Post #1392 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:55 am

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I love you all individually but hate you as a group
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Post Post #1393 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:55 am

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Can I bus you anony
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Post Post #1394 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:57 am

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In post 1388, RadiantCowbells wrote:You're not allowed to tell me or allow me to learn via deductive reason based on your treatment of my aster reads in future games if she's scum
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Post Post #1395 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 11:57 am

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In post 1391, AnonymousGhost wrote:@aster

y don't u think gamma could be bussing me?
This resembles my problem but I think the difference is this is a vastly simplified version of my problem.
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Post Post #1396 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:00 pm

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i like stuff simple

it's y i don't like mafia atm

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i have nine lives. bus me all u want
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Post Post #1397 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:07 pm

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In post 1391, AnonymousGhost wrote:y don't u think gamma could be bussing me?
It doesn't seem like Gamma Emerald actually put effort into getting you lynched, as such it is hard to call it a "bus", rather just some distancing. If you're both scum, there's no deep complot to throw open. Moreover, his actions make sense regardless of your alignment.
  • If you're town, then Gamma Emerald's vote was just some more of his active lurking waffles to make it look like he's doing stuff.
    After all, "Vote Me" → "Okay I'll vote you" is an easy threshold.
  • If you're scum, then Gamma Emerald's vote was some slight distancing before moving on to the next target.
The import part is that whatever his real motivation for voting you might be, he made up some reason that I cannot imagine a town active lurker making up.
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Post Post #1398 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:09 pm

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sorting? seems like a valid reason

tell me y it isn't
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Post Post #1399 (ISO) » Fri Dec 14, 2018 12:10 pm

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In post 1352, Gamma Emerald wrote:sorting them is a good move rn
he literally says it on the tin
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