Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Nero Cain]

VOTE: Suka

Why?

Aren't you the one that thinks votes should be unjustified?

[Vorkuta]

Not 'wrong' no:
apparently according to suka my playstyle this game sucks compared to my newbie game.
I'm replying with "in my newbie game I had stuff to analyse- here I don't"

[Suka]

Vorkuta, why don't you vote Bright with me?

[Nero Cain]

Suka, whats your mafia experience? Do you play on another site?

[Suka]

Aren't you the one that thinks votes should be unjustified?

There's a difference between requesting "justification" and asking why you voted someone.

[Kmd4390]

Jumping on to understand it is something I wouldn't do personally, but I guess I can see where it could make sense. But:

at which point I hop on the suka wagon.

^That sounds more like being ok with the lynch considering the size of the wagon and deadline being a little closer now. Has something changed?

[OkaPoka]

Yyotta is going to get prodded soon so that should be resolved + she posted elsewhere on site yesterday.

My main worry rn is that certain people aren't actually reading the game.

[Vorkuta]

Has something changed?

Suka made more posts

But seriously- in all fairness, I want to see the Yyotta wagon go through as she'll stonewall the game otherwise. (prove me wrong!)
If it won't happen at all, then

So I'd like to get a quick lynch and move on to night stage for when PRs can truly shine.

[OkaPoka]

The thing is I don't think Yyotta is actually reading the game so votes won't matter to her

Sure maybe out of policy we lynch Yyotta but I think suka has a chance of being scum here so

[Suka]

I think suka has a chance of being scum

From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?

[Vorkuta]

Vorkuta, why don't you vote Bright with me?

Because I don't think that it will through

His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
Suka wagon

and that gives my literally no grounds to vote on him
Like- what am I supposed to say when asked for why I would be voting for BEF- Suka told me to?

[OkaPoka]

I think suka has a chance of being scum

From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?

you know what i mean

suka has a *decent/sizable/enough to matter* chance of being scum

[OkaPoka]

Also you just aren't going to answer questions about your history with mafia?

[Suka]

His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
Suka wagon

These behaviors are more likely to come from scum than town, especially when comparing Bright's play as town/scum. He's quite active & independent thinking as town, none of which seems to be the case here.

[Nero Cain]

this is really the only Vork post that seems scummy to me.

I'm willing to jump on the DDL wagon (when/if he comes back) even though it doesn't really make sense to me..

I don't know if he is trying to use AtE to get people off of him and its having the opposite effect or what

Pretty much this- I think scum is way too classy to AtE, especially come D1...

First the "i'll vote a wagon that I don't even understand" is a little go with the flow and his "scum wouldn't ate like that" is some strange ass justification to town read DDL.

[Vorkuta]

I think suka has a chance of being scum

Ok I'll play ball

Suka's posts come off as very pushy for whatever wagon she's feels like pushing and have a very mean time.
Based on the way she posts, I doubt that she's a newbie, and hence I think she's fishing for things.
Like there's no way good scum!suka ends up at L-2 THIS EARLY ON.

[Suka]

I think suka has a chance of being scum

From your perspective, who doesn't have a chance of being scum?

you know what i mean

suka has a *decent/sizable/enough to matter* chance of being scum

No, I didn't know what you were saying. It feels like you're using the word "chance" to hedge. Why are you scumreading me? What have I done that you think more likely to come from scum than town?

[OkaPoka]

His ISO only gives me:
Yyota RVS and bit of pressure
sorry afk
sorry what'd I miss
wow guys, hating on me for asking for help
varsoon stop bully
DDL AtE = don't get the scum hread
Suka wagon

These behaviors are more likely to come from scum than town, especially when comparing Bright's play as town/scum. He's quite active & independent thinking as town, none of which seems to be the case here.

From my one game with him where he was town, he was not active and independent thinking.

[Suka]

Link the game.

[Nero Cain]

Like there's no way good scum!suka ends up at L-2 THIS EARLY ON.

What if she's just not good?

Like its plenty possible, she's just scum and she's been caught. You continue to give very strange reasons for your town reads...

[OkaPoka]

@vorkuta, I think that's reaching a bit.
@suka I'm scumreading you because you aren't being transparent and you are too conf-bias-y to the point where I don't think it comes from town.

game: https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=77657

[Vorkuta]

this is really the only Vork post that seems scummy to me.

You see- that's my problem with this game in particular.
scum!vork would have such an easy pass right now, that it's not even funny.
I think the same goes for a third of the entire player cast.

[Nero Cain]

Suka, whats your mafia experience? Do you play on another site?

[Nero Cain]

scum!vork would have such an easy pass right now, that it's not even funny.

how would a scum Vork navigate this game?

[Suka]

@suka I'm scumreading you because you aren't being transparent and you are too conf-bias-y to the point where I don't think it comes from town.

Where do you see me being "non-transparent" and "too conf-bias-y"? And why are those things scummy?

I wouldn't use that terms to describe my play, nor do I think they're more likely to come from scum (transparency is a playstyle thing and confirmation bias is a minor town tell).