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Post Post #50 (ISO) » Sun Dec 16, 2018 7:15 pm

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Official Vote Count 1.02
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LynchingWith 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

Nikk
(2): YellowSnow, Alonzo
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(2): Formerfish, Micc
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(1): Nikk
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(1): Emperor flippyNips
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(1): GrandWazoo

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(1): Poisonchan

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(expired on 2018-12-25 09:15:00).


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Good luck everyone!

Poisonchan have another (expired on 2018-12-17 09:15:00) to confirm before they will be replaced.
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Post Post #51 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 1:02 am

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In post 49, Formerfish wrote:Also, did you read the rest of my posts where I expand on that a bit and still not understand, or did you get to the first thing that hurt your head and stop there?
Allowing people to vote without reason opens the door for scum to skate by without having to at least put in the effort of a fake push or reasoning. It gives little benefit to a town player and a bunch to a scum player.

Town start at a information disadvantage. It seems real scummy to not only not want more information out there but to present such info as helpful advice. Unless you think there is a trap vote on page 2?

Also this insulting response is quite unbecoming of a town player as well.

tl;dr you presented advice that is bad at best and scum at worst and have offered no good reason for it.
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Post Post #52 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:35 am

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In post 51, Nikk wrote:
In post 49, Formerfish wrote:Also, did you read the rest of my posts where I expand on that a bit and still not understand, or did you get to the first thing that hurt your head and stop there?
Allowing people to vote without reason opens the door for scum to skate by without having to at least put in the effort of a fake push or reasoning. It gives little benefit to a town player and a bunch to a scum player.

Town start at a information disadvantage. It seems real scummy to not only not want more information out there but to present such info as helpful advice. Unless you think there is a trap vote on page 2?

Also this insulting response is quite unbecoming of a town player as well.

tl;dr you presented advice that is bad at best and scum at worst and have offered no good reason for it.
It is the very start of the game, i am not sure what are you getting yourself scared over. No one is going to hammer anyone without a proper case either way, and pushing people only helps town to get reads easier.
Looks like a very LAMIST post.
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Post Post #53 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 2:50 am

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In post 45, Nikk wrote:
In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I'm sorry what?

You aren't making much sense here.
Correct me if i am wrong, but i think Formerfish is trying to say that voting while explaining everything isnt necessary, as scum can react accordingly. If you make a joke vote and tell a player it is a joke vote, the player only reacts to it like a joke vote. If you don't, you can get a better idea on the player's allignment based on their reaction. Or something along these lines.
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Post Post #54 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:09 am

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In post 53, Child wrote:
In post 45, Nikk wrote:
In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I'm sorry what?

You aren't making much sense here.
Correct me if i am wrong, but i think Formerfish is trying to say that voting while explaining everything isnt necessary, as scum can react accordingly. If you make a joke vote and tell a player it is a joke vote, the player only reacts to it like a joke vote. If you don't, you can get a better idea on the player's allignment based on their reaction. Or something along these lines.
Do you believe this line of reasoning?
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Post Post #55 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:13 am

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In post 52, Child wrote:
In post 51, Nikk wrote:
In post 49, Formerfish wrote:Also, did you read the rest of my posts where I expand on that a bit and still not understand, or did you get to the first thing that hurt your head and stop there?
Allowing people to vote without reason opens the door for scum to skate by without having to at least put in the effort of a fake push or reasoning. It gives little benefit to a town player and a bunch to a scum player.

Town start at a information disadvantage. It seems real scummy to not only not want more information out there but to present such info as helpful advice. Unless you think there is a trap vote on page 2?

Also this insulting response is quite unbecoming of a town player as well.

tl;dr you presented advice that is bad at best and scum at worst and have offered no good reason for it.
It is the very start of the game, i am not sure what are you getting yourself scared over. No one is going to hammer anyone without a proper case either way, and pushing people only helps town to get reads easier.
Looks like a very LAMIST post.
VOTE: nikk
This is true, and it is early, but I'm confused on the context here. Was Fish pushing someone? I just saw some garbage advice being thrown. Am I misunderstanding this?
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Post Post #56 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 4:45 am

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Poisonchan is being replaced. If they confirm before a replacement is found, they can stay.
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Post Post #57 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 5:49 am

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In post 55, Nikk wrote:
In post 52, Child wrote:
In post 51, Nikk wrote:
In post 49, Formerfish wrote:Also, did you read the rest of my posts where I expand on that a bit and still not understand, or did you get to the first thing that hurt your head and stop there?
Allowing people to vote without reason opens the door for scum to skate by without having to at least put in the effort of a fake push or reasoning. It gives little benefit to a town player and a bunch to a scum player.

Town start at a information disadvantage. It seems real scummy to not only not want more information out there but to present such info as helpful advice. Unless you think there is a trap vote on page 2?

Also this insulting response is quite unbecoming of a town player as well.

tl;dr you presented advice that is bad at best and scum at worst and have offered no good reason for it.
It is the very start of the game, i am not sure what are you getting yourself scared over. No one is going to hammer anyone without a proper case either way, and pushing people only helps town to get reads easier.
Looks like a very LAMIST post.
VOTE: nikk
This is true, and it is early, but I'm confused on the context here. Was Fish pushing someone? I just saw some garbage advice being thrown. Am I misunderstanding this?
Most likely Nikk was triggered by Fish's playstyle. Could be scum distancing.
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Post Post #58 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:22 am

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In post 53, Child wrote:
In post 45, Nikk wrote:
In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I'm sorry what?

You aren't making much sense here.
Correct me if i am wrong, but i think Formerfish is trying to say that voting while explaining everything isnt necessary, as scum can react accordingly. If you make a joke vote and tell a player it is a joke vote, the player only reacts to it like a joke vote. If you don't, you can get a better idea on the player's allignment based on their reaction. Or something along these lines.
Ding ding ding!

If I tell someone a vote on them is a pressure vote to get them to post more then all they have to do is post and that vote should come off no issue. If the player voting is doing a reaction test then they would have to with hold the intent of the vote to get a reaction from the player being voted.

This is a simple thing to see and understand. If you feel like I'm being pedantic I can treat you with kids gloves. The you in that sentence is in reference to Nikk.
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Post Post #59 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:23 am

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In post 58, Formerfish wrote:
In post 53, Child wrote:
In post 45, Nikk wrote:
In post 39, Formerfish wrote:
In post 36, GrandWazoo wrote:Could be you were trying to distract me and still are. Or maybe Alonzo's trying to get me to vote someone on his own wagon. Perhaps both are true.
I'll keep my vote on flippy until he posts something useful.
Votes lose their power when you speak to their intentions.

And you can still hunt among active players while back burnering him until he gets back, there are 2 scumbags in this game...
I'm sorry what?

You aren't making much sense here.
Correct me if i am wrong, but i think Formerfish is trying to say that voting while explaining everything isnt necessary, as scum can react accordingly. If you make a joke vote and tell a player it is a joke vote, the player only reacts to it like a joke vote. If you don't, you can get a better idea on the player's allignment based on their reaction. Or something along these lines.
Ding ding ding!

If I tell someone a vote on them is a pressure vote to get them to post more then all they have to do is post and that vote should come off no issue. If the player voting is doing a reaction test then they would have to with hold the intent of the vote to get a reaction from the player being voted.

This is a simple thing to see and understand. If you feel like I'm being pedantic I can treat you with kids gloves. The you in that sentence is in reference to Nikk.
I don't think you are being pedantic just bad at the game.
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Post Post #60 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:23 am

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My record would say otherwise. Also, most people I play with.
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Post Post #61 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:32 am

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TTTT replaces Poisonchan! Please welcome them!
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Post Post #62 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:38 am

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you heard Plot
welcome me!
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Post Post #63 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:46 am

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Your previous record only gets you so far.

This isn't poker. Town should be more transparent. Scum are expected not to be.
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Post Post #64 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:49 am

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Welcome TTTT that is a freaky avatar you have there...
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Post Post #65 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:49 am

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Stop insulting my kid.
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Post Post #66 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:52 am

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Thanks dad
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Post Post #67 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 8:57 am

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Lol
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Post Post #68 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:18 am

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VOTE: Nikk

This is L-1
that means Nikk is one vote away from being lynched and you better not drop that last vote
until you've first declared your intent and giving everyone time to discuss the lynch
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Post Post #69 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:19 am

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ok now it's time to read the game
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Post Post #70 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:29 am

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@Alonzo - was this sarcastic or for-realsies?
In post 37, Alonzo wrote:Principles.

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Post Post #71 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:32 am

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In post 42, YellowSnow wrote:The correct answer is anything you do in the game may require explanation.
I'm afraid you and I may not become BFFs
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Post Post #72 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 10:43 am

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@Micc - are you thinking that some of this unnecessary bickering this early on day1 is manufactured?
yeah, me too
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Post Post #73 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:29 am

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In post 70, TTTT wrote:@Alonzo - was this sarcastic or for-realsies?
In post 37, Alonzo wrote:Principles.

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For realsies, I would not have been so Impressed had they abandoned their principles on page 2.
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Post Post #74 (ISO) » Mon Dec 17, 2018 11:33 am

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In post 72, TTTT wrote:unnecessary bickering
which posts?
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