Excalibur [Endgame]

[Nancy Drew 39]

Finally, if there is only one Fallen Knight remaining, then he/she will surrender and the game will end in Town Victory.

We only need to lynch 2 more scum

Okay, that’s good then.


HURT: UT

[Gamma Emerald]

aren't there three scum left, not 2?

i'll gladiate as soon as i hear from Gamma.

What’s up?

[Untrod Tripod]

Ugh

I've been shit this game tbh. I'll gladiate Penguin since we're both widely scumread. I have no problem doing that.

So to the people who are saying I have to be scum, what are you going to do after I flip town?

[Chara]

UT, that's a pretty meaningless question. anyone can say they'll flip town. you've just admitted yourself you haven't been doing much this game. i haven't either.
speaking of, why gladiate Penguin over me?
to answer your question, it would mean at least one strong townread is wrong.

Gamma: your opinion on me gladiating UT, that's what i wanted to hear.

[Gamma Emerald]

I think you should let UT do his thing first

[Chara]

why's that?

[Untrod Tripod]

why gladiate Penguin over me?

lol probably because we're scum together remember

that's the going theory right now, right? or am I mixing up my lazy-ass scumreads?

[Gamma Emerald]

Because I want him to take initiative.

[Chara]

that doesn't really clear things up for me. who is scum that you want dead?

[Chara]

and UT, the cog-dis in 2852 and 2856 is very blatant. and i rarely say that.

[Untrod Tripod]

and UT, the cog-dis in 2852 and 2856 is very blatant. and i rarely say that.

what are you talking about?

[Varsoon]

So, same thing turned around to you, Chara:
Do you think that UT, as scum, proposes the gladiate be between themselves and town when the townflip looks really bad for them here and we've got another day to play?

[Chara]

yes. there would be a scum besides UT, and considering i just offered to gladiate him i wouldn't be surprised if UT preferred to gladiate Penguin, who he would probably have a better chance at beating than me.
he knows he's going to be in a gladiate either way by now.

i don't know if he'd do that if he's scum with Penguin. i'd say it's possible, but actively gladiating town would just be a better idea for scum here.
i don't think any scum here can try and sit and hope town gladiates town again. there just aren't enough players left.

[Chara]

and UT, the cog-dis in 2852 and 2856 is very blatant. and i rarely say that.

what are you talking about?

you say you have no problem gladiating Penguin because you and him are both widely scumread, but when i ask why him over me you say that both of us are scumbuddies (a tongue in cheek reference to where scumreads are at right now). and add that the scumreads on us are both lazy, if i read that right. (maybe you mesnt Penguin there?)

so, you acknowledge that you haven't been doing anything, but that apparently the town shouldn't be scumreading that?
i'm asking you questions about your read on me to get some more content out of you, and i'd appreciate an actual answer.
as it is i'd say you're just scum, though.
if it's not you, i'd say Gamma/Penguin. but that's two of three. who's the last?

[Chara]

i didn't really say what i wanted to say there. why isn't gladiating me an option for you, when i'm actually more of a consensus scumread than Penguin appears to be?

[Chara]

if UT is scum here i believe he knows he can't turn this around. well, mostly, i'm sure there's a chance. if i was in that position i'd be trying to put up false associatives with town to score the game-winning mislynch.
so, in that position, the current options proposed would be me gladiating him, or him gladiating Penguin. let's assume Penguin is town as your post proposes, Varsoon. of course UT would want him over me as his 1v1 target.
a scum UT doesn't have the luxury of getting a TvT gladiate happening, is the bottom line.

[Varsoon]

It's kinda interesting because I am absolutely sure that if one of you three is scum, then there's gotta be a town common denominator between you all.

[Varsoon]

I'm interested in who Penguin thinks should be the gladiate.

[Chara]

It's kinda interesting because I am absolutely sure that if one of you three is scum, then there's gotta be a town common denominator between you all.

what do you mean by town common denominator? (if not that "there's town in the three of you somewhere")

[Varsoon]

I guess you could all be the three remaining scum and that could be theater, but since we only need 2 more scum down to win, I really don't think that's the case.
It feels like there's gotta be one scum at least in the 3 of you, with at least 1, probably 2 scum on the sidelines trying not to get too involved/dragged in/hoping this gladiate ends up town v town, either within the 3 of you or by one of you gladiating outside the 3.

By town common denominator, I mean the person that, between the three of you, is likely to be town from both a town and a scum PoV--someone you'd gladiate as scum but townread as town, that's common between all 3.
Does that make sense?
If we could figure that out, it'd make the gladiating two fairly obvious, imo.

[Chara]

that's an interestng proposal, considering you'd be my first pick for that elusive third scum (assuming 1 scum in us three, scum Gamma, and then you).

and i'm trying to understand, but still not sure i get it. scum, unless bussing for some reason, want to gladiate a town they can mislynch... not someone who would be townread as town. the two conditions seem to contradict each other. am i missing something?

[Varsoon]

Scum need to scrape out two more mislynches in a row, here.
Even losing one scum is a huge problem for them, because it puts them 1 away from losing while town's still got two confirmed town, one of which is bulletproof.
So first and foremost
Scum don't want to be in the gladiate at all
And then if they have to be, they're going to want the other player to be town, given how every gladiate so far has gone.
So if you three go, for instance:
Chara: Penguin is scum, UT is town. I will gladiate Penguin.
UT: Penguin is scum, Chara is town. I will gladiate Penguin.
Penguin: UT is scum, Chara is town. I will gladiate UT.
Then that makes this
Assuming each person is TOWN and TOWNREADING ACCURATELY
Chara 2 votes, UT 1 vote.
Assuming each person is SCUM and TRYING TO LYNCH TOWN.
Penguin 2 votes, Chara 2 votes.

Since Chara has 4 votes, Chara is most likely to be town here.

From solely considering the gladiates and reads out of context.
Yeah it is a little at odds now that I look at it but that's what I mean.

[Varsoon]

I'm proposing looking at it this way because all three of you don't have a ton of other content to judge you by, which kinda sucks.

[Chara]

yes, and i'm sorry about that. the good news is i'm trying now, and so i doubt i'll be mislynched unless town makes a really bad gladiate.

Penguin really doesn't have any content, but UT has posts like the one about Cakez's reaction to the flip, and his followup after i questioned it. (posts i find a bit scummy).

speaking of, why was Cakez nightkilled? i'm asking because i don't know if he was very townread or not.

[Kokichi Oma]

Good question