Starcraft Mafia -- Game Over!

[AlmostNancy]

Keys continues to be a tr for me

nauci - tr. Used to have this as sr since I couldn’t tell why exactly she was scumreading me . Later reconsidered in 1875 for nauci to be tr. Not sure what to make of constant vote swings .

AN looked like they’re trying to understand people’s thought processes like in 788, and their AtE while excessive, sounds genuine. Want to see her reply to my question .

What I think about the koki slot is that he's not town . But his claim makes me extremely hesitant, so I'm not touching that .

Shos & tw have been giving me a bad feeling. Can’t put a finger on what exactly for the latter. Shos's townread of skitter is telling - see below for elaboration.

xtox is coasting and provided minimal content after he voted me. Doesn’t even sort after voting Performer. Half of this phase is over already .

mitil - Yesterday his casing looked genuine but today's additional accusations just looks like throwing whatever to hope it sticks, like nailing jello on a wall. Reevaluating his no ninja information part, that makes sense if he’s scum – maybe an informed scum?

mew has been playing very oddly, and has been hard to sort.
Skitter has also been hard to sort and even had no thoughts on Keys after 100+ pages, which is just unreal if town.

Vars - his ISO for d1 consisted of super sheeping of shos, today he questioned her being infalliable. That just looks like a way to deny accountability for lynches and explain why he votes .
Saying that someone didn't mislynch before - that's just absurd.

Can you do me a favour and ISO Kokichi in CoH and tell me if that affects your read on him.


https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... B%5D=30618

[Krazy]

Votecount 2.4

Performer(5)

~ Xtoxm(10), Mitillos(8), the worst(48), Shoshin(46), Varsoon(27)

Mitillos(1)

~ Performer(24)

Mewtaph(1)

~ skitter30(22)

Keyser Söze(1)

~ Kokichi Oma(35)


Not Voting (4): Keyser Söze(11), Mewtaph(14), Nauci(76), AlmostNancy(109)

With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Day 2 deadline is in (expired on 2018-12-23 13:55:40)

FLAVOR

Spoiler:

[AlmostNancy]

Skitter, shoshin, tw, mitillos: let's talk about Keyser

Also, AN: how much experience do you guys have with Keyser?

Me, none but I just ISO’d him and he was heavily scumreading both Irrelephant11 and Creature fwiw.

FTR: I came round as probtown on Relly the second half of D1...

RE: Creature: I didn’t like all the strong town reads of Creature, but in no way was I actively “heavily scumreading him”.

This is what I was trying to point out with 2737; I thought it was odd that Nancy didn't use the most up to date reads, and even doubled down on using earlier posts after I mentioned it

But I'm not sure what to make of it, alignment wise

You consider that “doubling down”? Really? I’ll definitely give you props for your interesting creative interpretations of my posting.

What I call it, was not allowing you to get away with misrepping me - intentionally or unintentionally.

But hey, cool spin.

[AlmostNancy]

@Nauci, you were the person, I referenced in my post as being mean. This is beginning to border on abusive now. I’m asking you nicely to stop and if you continue to either talk to me/or about me this way, I WILL report you. Don’t test me.

I think that many of your posts have had a combative feel or are just emotionally charged and have negative comments about people even if it's out of frustration. I always think it's rude be in principle to suggest to someone else that they replace out, but especially when that determination is solely based on them saying they might not have the bandwidth to read

just your slot

during early day phases. I think it's factual that you have suspected multiple people because you think it's so absurd to not town read you, which apparently several people disagree with because several people are struggling to read your slot.

It's a personal failing of mine that I'm remembering those more than other content and it's clouding my ability to remember your various reads and narratives from your slot, but I'm not sure what I've said about your slot that could be construed as abusive.

I’m not currently interested in revisiting it but sorry, I think you are trying once again to convince me I should retract my warning but this post is the exact opposite of persusive. I will not be pushed out of any game by anyone who treats anyone the way you have me in this game, so far. That type of behaviour is just an absurd rationalization, for expecting me to continue to tolerate your bullying of me. Hell would literally have to freeze over before that happens.

[AlmostNancy]

Oh
I figured out the problem
I am overgamed.
Nah yeah Xtoxm you're good here, I'm a doofus.

I can definitely relate to the overgamed thing.

[AlmostNancy]

No idea what Varsoon talking about re: flavor or multiball. Doesn't feel like something that come from town, more like scum trying to shake things up. Also don't like that he's saying I'm not around, trying to plant seeds of paranoia about me.

I can’t speak for the rest of it but since our slot is an informed townie with a flavour claim, it does make sense.

[AlmostNancy]

There will be a mafia faction, they will have daytalk.
There may be at least one third party role

this sounds better

Does 1 3P make it multiball? Or maybe I’m confusing multiball with normal?

[AlmostNancy]

Here's the thing
I know, for a fact, that Zerg is going to exist as a faction. This is a ducking STARCRAFT game.
And Zerg, in no way, have 'shoot' flavor in this game.
And we know kill flavor is important
because of the Terran flips

Actually,

@MOD: The dead PGO and Vigilante say they have 'bullet' flavor. What would their kills have looked like if they happened? What would be written?

I think if you knew what my flavour claim was, you might be the only person in the game, who might be able to possibly correctly alignment read it.

[AlmostNancy]

Flavour gaming is a little addictive >:

It literally killed me in Overkill 1 anyway.

[AlmostNancy]

Wait hold on are you saying we're missing a nk?

Oh

Oh damn

Hmm it's possible

It's also possible

there's an infested terran with a gun

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I'd not even considered the possibility of a kill having been prevented because 3 killers n1 is absurd and creature didn't die by PGO

Wrt the bolded. Come again?

[AlmostNancy]

Vars sorry for this but you've softed a little too much. You're informed too right?

Multiple informed townies in the same game?

Mitilos first claimed no ninja, then we crumbed/claimed informed townie with a flavour claim.

So you think it’s more than Varsoon being an expert on Starcraft?

[AlmostNancy]

My role indirectly implies we shouldn't claim abilities btw but explaining atm is roughly anti wincon

Mine isn’t directly correlated to my role but it would be easily recognized as a town role in Starcraft, I think.

[AlmostNancy]

Role PMs have multiball/generic wording and the opening post says there is ~a~ mafia faction with daytalk so I feel like we're dealing with maybe mafia + SK

but irrelephant, as w Creature, was shot, so if the Zerg is a faction either they don't have a nightkill or they didn't kill last night...?

I'm saying it's probably something like

Evil Terrans

kill on Odd Nights with Bullets.
Zerg kill on Even Nights with Claws.
SK could be Protoss?

I'm not saying we're missing a kill, but that I think the different factions have a rotating kill with different flavor.
I also think that if there is an SK, they probably are bulletproof and shot our PGO.

So, you don’t think there could possibly be an odd night scumdoc in the setup?

“Evil Terrans”? I thought Terrans are supposed to be the good guys? *confused*

[AlmostNancy]

Protoss shoot lasers and use beam swords and lightning. They're... not really bullet-types.
Zerg? They can infect humans and control them, so it's possible that some Zerg have bullet-type flavor.
There are also just straight up Terran that are bad guys and they'd definitely have bullet-type flavor.

I still don’t understand. How are Terrans bad guys? *confuzzlement growning*

[Krazy]

@MOD: The dead PGO and Vigilante say they have 'bullet' flavor. What would their kills have looked like if they happened? What would be written?

All kills with bullet flavor will have the same flavor so there would be no difference.

[AlmostNancy]

VOTE: performer

I don't understand how crumbing scv flavor could possibly allude to being a tpr

But I could see it being a scum train of thought

Also I don't think anyone here has played it enough to immediately recognise the butter my biscuit allusion, and I say that as someone who has every achievement and used to commentate sc2 esports

Why?

[AlmostNancy]

Just don't shoot me if you're a vig if it doesn't show me as IC right away N2. But, yes I will be clear, don't worry.

The D1 vig is dead. Someone hasn’t been reading the game.

N

I meant it metaphorically. But, in the event there is a back up vig.

Yes, I suppose that’s possible or a back up doc as well?

[AlmostNancy]

@Kokichi: It's probably Even-Night Zerg gets to kill, Odd-Night Protoss or the bad Terrans, going by flavor so far?

Yeah. That makes some sense. I doubt Zerg would have a kill flavor of shot, so it should be interesting to see.

Wtf are those? I don’t recall seeing any of those on MS Wiki?

So you dont know what starcraft is?

I am not at all familiar with the flavour, correct. If I was, I might be able to assess, the possibile alignment of my informed flavour claim.

[the worst]

Vars sorry for this but you've softed a little too much. You're informed too right?

Multiple informed townies in the same game?

Mitilos first claimed no ninja, then we crumbed/claimed informed townie with a flavour claim.

So you think it’s more than Varsoon being an expert on Starcraft?

Some of his language was TMIey. I still really expect him to to claim whether or not he is informed.

[the worst]

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[AlmostNancy]

VOTE: performer

I don't understand how crumbing scv flavor could possibly allude to being a tpr

But I could see it being a scum train of thought

Also I don't think anyone here has played it enough to immediately recognise the butter my biscuit allusion, and I say that as someone who has every achievement and used to commentate sc2 esports

I don't get the reference.
But I haven't played any of Starcraft 2.
Actually
Should I play it for the plot/story missions??


VOTE: Performer

I'm cool with this.

Why is his claim more likely to come from scum than town? You would be able to explain that better than anyone else here, I hope?

[AlmostNancy]

@Nauci I don't think crumbs are meant to be immediately recognisable :I otherwise I generally agree. Ironically I really don't think Performer is likely the one who killed Relly but I still don't think he's town

If you think he’s scum, then why don’t you think he killed him?

[AlmostNancy]

I'm not really sure? But either way if he shot Relly last night using his 1sbp for protection I'd be pretty shocked if he was so comfortable with claiming 1sbp today when there's no other explanation for Relly's death

Oh okay, that makes sense.

[AlmostNancy]

Just realized something.

Was thinking over and over about the "no ninja" speculation from mitil. Starting to wonder if he is ascetic. Then, that makes sense since I am a town bp , so that creates wifom from the mod.

So, if there exists an ascetic - or even some sort of a scum bp along with town bp, that makes sense .
Mitil mentioned no ninja, and if he was ascetic scum or ascetic sk - that would be something plausible. Then I could see the claim of no ninja being possible.

There's likely a scum bp or scum ascetic somewhere, who killed irrel on n1.

want to hear his reply when he returns, because I have way too many scumreads.

Ninja is way more powerful than ascetic though?

[AlmostNancy]

In terms of mitil - my theory is that he mentioned no ninja to get town credit d1. During n2, 2 kills happened, with one on the pgo of all people.

Add into that my role of town bp, I figured there could be a scum/sk bp OR scum ascetic/ sk ascetic. Otherwise why would irrel flip green with creat who flipped green with an even-night ability? Makes no sense. That means the scum/sk survived and killed irrel.

Because bp OR ascetic wouldn't need to worry about pgo. Why on earth they chose irrel of all people, that is downright confusing . Because if I weren't town here - and a50 would attest to this - I would choose a50 or tw based on who I knew. Like they'd be dead on n1 , guaranteed in the world of sk/scum perf. No offense to irrel

You’re saying that if you were scum, us or tw would be dead. Why?