[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

[Leodanny]

Leodanny (L-3)

: Thor665, Persivul, Auro, Dunnstral

DarkLightA (L-4)

: Nako, Lamees, bristep123

rb (L-4)

: Leodanny, Something_Smart, DarkLightA

Dunnstral (L-6)

: rb

Egix96, Malakitty

Why?

[Auro]

Why not?

[Persivul]

I mean, I voted him and nobody was interested

So vote him again. Nothing's changed about him.

[DarkLightA]

I feel completely lost and am full of null views.

[Persivul]

Compromise lynches?
Not interested in an RB wagon.
Your slot I wanted out but I really liked your post, and the wagon was not impressive before the replacement.
Thor, Dunn, Egix, S_S, bristep are all wagons I'd be fine with ATM but I don't think there's enough to actually case any of them.

Let's vote Egix?

Way to vote Leo then suggest a new wagon an hour later.

[Auro]

Has your read on RB changed? That's still a wagon you could push, right?

[DarkLightA]

Persivul you're my only townread, tell me who's scum

[DarkLightA]

Like, RB's cop TMI slip is the closest I have to a grip on this game

[Auro]

Way to vote Leo then suggest a new wagon an hour later.

Yeah as I said, Leo is a meh lynch, he doesn't respond to pressure as either alignment I think. I did want to have other wagons at the time of my vote, hence I asked you about your other scumreads, and Thor why he isn't pushing RB

[DarkLightA]

Atm rb is the only lynch I'm happy with. However, there are a hell of a lot of people I wouldn't cry too much about if they were lynched.
Let's not lynch persivul though

[Auro]

Then you should be fine wagoning and getting more info to sort people, no?

[DarkLightA]

Lol I actually think the problem is we have too much information... And I still can't see anything. Bah

[Persivul]

Has your read on RB changed? That's still a wagon you could push, right?

Is that to me? Cause I haven't been on rb.

[Persivul]

Persivul you're my only townread, tell me who's scum

I don't know, I'm pretty useless on tone reads, which is basically what you have D1. I get better later when there's some VCA and NKA.

[Persivul]

Like, RB's cop TMI slip is the closest I have to a grip on this game

I seriously doubt that's a slip. Sometimes people forget to say "if" or "hypothetically" or whatever.

[DarkLightA]

This game is special though because scum have knowledge of town roles. I think that adds credibility to it being a legit slip

[Nako]

I will read the game later

[Auro]

Has your read on RB changed? That's still a wagon you could push, right?

Is that to me? Cause I haven't been on rb.

Nah it was to DLA

[Auro]

Don't think it has, you don't show me ever agreeing that not reading is good - you do have me showing I'd be happy to see you (or me if you wish) get Copped
What's the attitude change there exactly?

I didn't say that attitude changed. I said it felt

absent

.
So you're happy for attracting an investigative onto one of us, uhuh cool.
I'm not liking that particularly, considering the possibility of both immortals and framers in this setup if there is a cop.

Thor, I want to talk about this more - I think it's a horrendous idea to gate a cop check to one or two people, since if there's a cop it's almost guaranteed that we have a framer/GF or both.

Why were you happy at that suggestion?

[Lamees]

If scum knows there is an angel and also a priest (highest chance to roll) in the game then it makes sense for them to choose both immortal and ghost. So this gives our town power roles not as much effect.

It also says if a ghost were to frame a town player, that player will die when smite is used. Only person I remember was insisting that I name a target is persivul.

VOTE: persivul

[Auro]

No, Lam, that only applies if you're the NK. If you're lynched in the day you use your smite in twilight, and scum can't use ghost then -- so it's guaranteed that if you're hitting a town target they won't die. It's good for us, though, because that town then becomes somewhat confirmed (unless they happen to be an immortal).

If you're going to be lynched at some point, naming a target works better.
If you're killed in the night, you should pick another option.

[Lamees]

Telling my target during the day is still bad though. If I get night killed town would assume I targeted that player.

Is there anyone you town read auro? I've seen players use the "I wouldn't want this player in lylo" line a lot lately. You really think there is a player you'd want in lylo atm? For me so far majority of the player list is actually a scum read.

[Auro]

No no, not if we establish that if you're killed at night, you *may or may not* target the player you named.
Whoever you name is ONLY if you're killed in the day.
This way, town wouldn't assume that player's the target if you're the NK, and also lessens the benefit of a ghost to scum.
Sounds good?

Persivul is my only strong-ish townread.
RB is a weaker townread for reasons I explained, not a fan of his posts though.

Regarding wanting players in LyLo, it's more a proficiency thing, not from a reads' aspect. Having a player who provides absolutely zero useful content in LyLo makes it impossible to sort them (Eg. Leodanny), whereas it's easier to sort someone who's reasonable (or expected to be).

What are your reads?

[Lamees]

Town-
Leodanny

Null-
Bristep123
Dunnstral
Nako
Egix96

Scum-
Auro
Persivul
Malakitty
Rb
Something_smart
DLA
Thor

[Auro]

How on earth is Leodanny a town read?!