Overkill 2: A Blood-Thirsty Stallone Themed Game

[CheekyTeeky]

Tbf last time I lost the game for my team at Lylo I did the opposite and over thought it. If I had voted early with my gut I would've been right so it's easy to get confirmation biased about the best approach in Lylo.

I don't see how waiting would've changed the outcome and mafia is a team game so even if it comes down to Lylo everyone contributed on the path there.

I will say I did apologise for my loss for all the good that did lol.

Pedit Morality is scum doubt = zero

[Flavor Leaf]

I don’t know, man. Everything kind of went exactly how I expected it to.

I think I even told Almost a few days in advance that I was going to switch my claim.

[DrewVa]

Like ya'll literally know each other's alignments and what you say here is from player to player.
Switch modes and switch codes.

P-EDIT:
@Cerb: Yeah, but you gotta consider how Nancy feels and the best way to package your advice and critique. Nancy just made a mistake that cost THEIR TEAM the game. If that was me, I'd be liable to feel really awful and if someone came out ragging on me for it I'd probably take it a bit personally and try to justify my play, too.

Trust me, people failing to learn and improve really, really, really frustrates me, too, but aggro isn't the way to enact change. It just fucks things up for everyone. Please take a few breaths, step away, and think through having more repose here.

Both DVa and me obviously wrongly believed FL was locktown from his claim. We almost did investigate him but wasted it on Thor, due to us falling for his PGO thing. If I ever play with him again, I assure you history won’t repeat itself.

It’s all well and fine for people spoiled in the dead thread to wrongly judge me but I thought FL was locktown and twitchy and ready to throw the game by voting us.

I did underestimate Amzela though and for that, I’m truly sorry. She played a really good game.

[Flavor Leaf]

Tbf last time I lost the game for my team at Lylo I did the opposite and over thought it. If I had voted early with my gut I would've been right so it's easy to get confirmation biased about the best approach in Lylo.

I don't see how waiting would've changed the outcome and mafia is a team game so even if it comes down to Lylo everyone contributed on the path there.

I will say I did apologise for my loss for all the good that did lol.

Pedit Morality is scum doubt = zero

Oh yeah...you’re Morality’s biggest nemesis.

[CheekyTeeky]

You play so differently under each alt.

[Alchemist21]

Good game!

[Cerberus v666]

Flavor, c'mon, you can tone down the bluffin'

Seconded.

Winning because someone else is bad is not the same as winning because you outplayed a worthy opponent.

DrewVa *had* every opportunity to slow play the day, you didn't MAKE them do anything

*shrug*

[DVa]

Seems like cerb is a douche

GGs FL

[Flavor Leaf]

Even the other SK thought I was lock town. Like I said, I play for the players in the game, not the ones in the dead thread.

It’s why replacements wreck me.

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor, c'mon, you can tone down the bluffin'

Seconded.

Winning because someone else is bad is not the same as winning because you outplayed a worthy opponent.

DrewVa *had* every opportunity to slow play the day, you didn't MAKE them do anything

*shrug*

Had Amzela came back, I would have lynched DrewVa.

Don’t see your point. I don’t get lynched. :shrug:

[Varsoon]

<3
I think there is something to be said for re-assessing "why did I make it to lylo? Why was I left alive" but also yeah that's a huge WIFOM pit that could lead you astray.

It's easy for us to say "Oh! you should've taken more time!" because we understand the circumstances from our PoV and not yours.

I agree, if anything, this game has taught me to doubt way more in closed setups.

[Flavor Leaf]

Seems like cerb is a douche

GGs FL

Thanks. This game stressed me out.

[Cerberus v666]

Again, as I said in the dead thread:

I would have been very happy about everyone's play if discussion had happened, FL had outtalked people, and just won the game.

That's cool, that's a good ending, no matter who wins.

People who care so little about playing out the endgame and thinking that they're okay with their hydra partner just voting someone without discussion doing just that?

That is not a good ending to a game, no matter who wins.

[DrewVa]

Tbf last time I lost the game for my team at Lylo I did the opposite and over thought it. If I had voted early with my gut I would've been right so it's easy to get confirmation biased about the best approach in Lylo.

I don't see how waiting would've changed the outcome and mafia is a team game so even if it comes down to Lylo everyone contributed on the path there.

I will say I did apologise for my loss for all the good that did lol.

Pedit Morality is scum doubt = zero

Thanks. <3

See, FL’s claim made sense because how did he know before Profil’s guilty that Gamma was a goon and even more convincing, was him correctly identifying Tails as “not vanilla”. I don’t really think I had a chance in hell against an experirnced acting coach. Most players wouldn’t have been able to fool me with the flawless way, he handled all of the questions about his claim. Most players wouldn’t have been able to have done that without slipping even a little.

[DrewVa]

Seems like cerb is a douche

GGs FL

+1

What gave it away?

[Toogeloo]

I take full responsibility for Town's loss. Sorry guys.

[Cerberus v666]

Flavor, c'mon, you can tone down the bluffin'

Seconded.

Winning because someone else is bad is not the same as winning because you outplayed a worthy opponent.

DrewVa *had* every opportunity to slow play the day, you didn't MAKE them do anything

*shrug*

Had Amzela came back, I would have lynched DrewVa.

Don’t see your point. I don’t get lynched. :shrug:

FL, amzela doesn't vote there if she isn't already lynched.

Like, Drewva hammered, i pm'd her on discord saying yep, you're dead love, you lost, and she came and voted for drewva 10 seconds later.

[Creature]

The 'softguilty' irritated me the most.

[Varsoon]

It was pretty obvious, from dead thread, that FL posted a ton to flood out Amz on daystart and position to vote/hammer either player.
The second he saw some doubt from DrewVa, he pounced in a way that DrewVa would have an easy time following.
That much was intentional. Yes, it was easy for US to see through, but maybe not so much for them.
/shrugs.
I'm fine with how the game shook out, though I wish everyone, myself included, had dropped better game.

[DrewVa]

Again, as I said in the dead thread:

I would have been very happy about everyone's play if discussion had happened, FL had outtalked people, and just won the game.

That's cool, that's a good ending, no matter who wins.

People who care so little about playing out the endgame and thinking that they're okay with their hydra partner just voting someone without discussion doing just that?

That is not a good ending to a game, no matter who wins.

Note: to rest of playerlist

This is coming from someone who got himself vigged.

[CheekyTeeky]

I once won as scum by getting Mathdino to vote/gladiate eddie cane while he was at a party IRL I respect Mathdino but I had worked out a way to get obv town eddie quickvoted. I had to push him to vote before eddie got back, there's noway I think less of Math it's just that all the dynamics in the game lead to that point. Eddie did what cerb is doing now and acknowledged everyone for my win except me.

[DVa]

I still haven't read everything did FL make a gambit on buj or did he somehow have a result on buj?

[Flavor Leaf]

Flavor, c'mon, you can tone down the bluffin'

Seconded.

Winning because someone else is bad is not the same as winning because you outplayed a worthy opponent.

DrewVa *had* every opportunity to slow play the day, you didn't MAKE them do anything

*shrug*

Had Amzela came back, I would have lynched DrewVa.

Don’t see your point. I don’t get lynched. :shrug:

FL, amzela doesn't vote there if she isn't already lynched.

Like, Drewva hammered, i pm'd her on discord saying yep, you're dead love, you lost, and she came and voted for drewva 10 seconds later.

Yeah, but I still don’t get lynched.

[Cerberus v666]

Tbf last time I lost the game for my team at Lylo I did the opposite and over thought it. If I had voted early with my gut I would've been right so it's easy to get confirmation biased about the best approach in Lylo.

I don't see how waiting would've changed the outcome and mafia is a team game so even if it comes down to Lylo everyone contributed on the path there.

I will say I did apologise for my loss for all the good that did lol.

Pedit Morality is scum doubt = zero

Thanks. <3

See, FL’s claim made sense because how did he know before Profil’s guilty that Gamma was a goon and even more convincing, was him correctly identifying Tails as “not vanilla”. I don’t really think I had a chance in hell against an experirnced acting coach. Most players wouldn’t have been able to fool me with the flawless way, he handled all of the questions about his claim. Most players wouldn’t have been able to have done that without slipping even a little.

That's because his claim was true? Every part of it except the part where he bussed his partner.

Like.

Yeah.

Again, zero consideration of bussing is...disappointing, to say the least.

pedit: Yeah, that was all obvious, but I don't blame peopel for missing that. It's not giving themselves the chance to catch it that's the problem. Anyways. DrewVa, if either of you want to have a constructive conversationa bout why I feel the way I do about your play, rather than assuming that I'm either frustrated at the loss itself or about my own play, I'm open to it. As I said, there are *several* points that should have been discussed before any votes were put down by anyone.

[Varsoon]

I still haven't read everything did FL make a gambit on buj or did he somehow have a result on buj?

They were on the same side all along
GAMBITS
BIG GAMBITS