Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[OkaPoka]

i think crumbs have to be the key here still then

they are probably more well hidden, but traitors have to crumb right? (if they are playing optimally of course and i dont think rb is actually a troll player)

[mbaki]

VOTE: BrightEyedFish

[OkaPoka]

i guess we could live in a scenario where its like vorkuta + someone and that's how rb was crumbing it? idk ill re iso

[DrDolittle]

I believe that means Vorkuta is town?

I thank fue opposite no?

[OkaPoka]

above scenario would explain nk

[DrDolittle]

I think it is the opposite*

[DrDolittle]

VOTE: vorkuta

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: vorkuta

unless we can get a vig confirmation

[mbaki]

You could argue Vorkuta kills rb because rb is pushing him, sure.

You could also argue rb's only push wouldn't be on his partner, Vorkuta.

Perhaps more soft distancing would be best, like with his absent approval of a BrightEyedFish or DrDoLittle lynch.

Perhaps we could just read on associations because this whole night kill is a mess.

I'll need to mull this over.

[OkaPoka]

actually that would make no sense

traitor needs to confirm himself to the mafia and pushing vorkuta would not do that

VOTE: nero cain

im guessing then the nk was on the townread-y parts. Would mafia know there is a traitor? I haven't played many normals so I'll see if i can find some example games.

[DrDolittle]

Normal rules on traitor are clear https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Traitor

[mbaki]

Yes, mafia would know there was a traitor if only by the fact they would have two members and multiball is disallowed in mini normals.

Why would they kill RB for townreading a scum Nero Cain? That doesn't make sense.

[OkaPoka]

what does "should" mean here?

is that a guarantee?

[OkaPoka]

A Traitor is considered Normal on mafiascum.net, as long as it:

is Mafia-aligned
knows the identities of all of the Mafia team
identity is not known by the Mafia team, although they

should

know a Traitor exists
cannot be recruited to join the rest of the Mafia team, and (unless Bulletproof) is killed if shot
is endgamed if all other Mafia are dead
gives a "guilty" result to Cops, an "innocent" result to Gunsmiths, and a "Traitor" result to Role Cops
If you want a Traitor that cannot be killed by its team, make it a Bulletproof Traitor. (A Traitor that investigates as though they were town is not Normal, because the Godfather role is not Normal.) Roles like this should return full names (e.g. Bulletproof Traitor) to a Role Cop investigating them.

As a Traitor is Mafia-aligned, it counts towards the Mafia's win condition. For example, in the situation of 1 Goon, 1 Traitor and 2 Townies, the game ends in a Mafia win.

[OkaPoka]

Yes, mafia would know there was a traitor if only by the fact they would have two members and multiball is disallowed in mini normals.

Why would they kill RB for townreading a scum Nero Cain? That doesn't make sense.

i dont think he would be killed for townreading nero cain

i simply think that him tr'ing Nero wouldn't have been considered.

maybe im wrong but rn its the most reasonable explanation

i think he crumbed to nero the most so

[BrightEyedFish]

VOTE: Mbaki
Guilty.

[OkaPoka]

ill just assume that should is a must for now

[OkaPoka]

VOTE: Mbaki
Guilty.

cop claim?

[Suka]

VOTE: Mbaki

I was about to vote before the guilty, too.

[OkaPoka]

wow im always serious imo

mbaki confirmed scum

or is it this post

[BrightEyedFish]

wow im always serious imo

mbaki confirmed scum

or is it this post

Whatever you need to believe that mbaki is scum.

[OkaPoka]

nero + mbaki?

hmm

[OkaPoka]

@bef how sure are u its mbaki

[Suka]

Nero's town.

[northsidegal]

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