Open 744 - Lovers and Losers [endgame]

[Clemency]

VOTE: Dongempire

Bless.

Now we need two of Ruby/Mcqueen/Bambi and this nightmare will end.

VOTE: dongempire

You don't get to outdo me in being spontaneous and weird.

VOTE: Dongempire

Only I get to do that.

but that's the only reason i get universally townread every game

[Bambi Jay]

Well killing someone who already wanted to die is weird.

Did we win?

[Clemency]

[Clemency]

i think i'm gonna start using these

[Clemency]

opinions

[LolWagons]

You guys won.

OK/Me/Dong were mafia. I bussed hard. Two VTs must have claimed lover.

[Bambi Jay]

if it's scum, i was most likely wrong
if it's town, we have the scumteam

Can ya explain this slightly, Clem?

[LolWagons]

Little worried that one from each pair voted Dong actually but whatever

This game doesn’t seem to be wrought with strategic thinking

[Bambi Jay]

Little worried that one from each pair voted Dong actually but whatever

This game doesn’t seem to be wrought with strategic thinking

Your just happy that you got 2 of the town lovers to vote with Michael, ya bloody scum.

[LolWagons]

Little worried that one from each pair voted Dong actually but whatever

This game doesn’t seem to be wrought with strategic thinking

Your just happy that you got 2 of the town lovers to vote with Michael, ya bloody scum.

So... you hammered someone you thought was town?

Only one of OK/Me/Dong could be scum.

[Bambi Jay]

I hammered because he doesn't want to play anymore anyway. Now we can probably kill you if I can convince my partner to listen to reason.

[Clemency]

if it's scum, i was most likely wrong
if it's town, we have the scumteam

Can ya explain this slightly, Clem?

if it flips town, lolwagons + ms is scum in my eyes
if it flips scum, i was probably wrong about ms

[Bambi Jay]

Are you stealing my brainwaves or are we literally just thinking the same thoughts, Clem?

[LolWagons]

I’m feeling way less good about this now.

MS are you around?

[Clemency]

Are you stealing my brainwaves or are we literally just thinking the same thoughts, Clem?

maybe i'm just one of your many many alts gone rogue

[Clemency]

saving this for bambs one day

[Michael Scott]

Why'd you guys hammer Dong without me
It's always better to decide *both* lynches in advance, otherwise we're playing directly to scum wincon because of one of Bambi/Clem's derptunnels.

I'm pretty confident Dong isn't scum, not only because 0verki11 has been scummier, but my solving scumread Clem was quick to vote for him earlier too, a huge red flag.

0verki11 plays an independent game as scum.

~J

[Michael Scott]

if it flips town, lolwagons + ms is scum in my eyes
if it flips scum, i was probably wrong about ms

This is literally what I predicted to happen if we mislynched a townie. Which is why, FMPOV optimal strategy was no more a VT solve. If it's any solace, Red reads me correctly -- so that counters Bambi's derp.

0ver becomes Lolwagon's obvious vote in D2. McQueen and I both will probably vote there as well, because I'm pretty much locktown on Lolwagons. If Red votes with us, 4 votes, and we run into the deadline with plurality.

Thus, I don't need to care for derp!Bambi anymore. Red, I'm convinced it's 0ver in this scenario, let's solve the game together when you're online.

[Michael Scott]

So you're saying a scum player has never voted for their scum partners? That vote isn't AI. Your whole A/B/C analysis is just a clever plot to get yourself disassociated with one of the scumVTs here like Dong or Overkill.

I'd also like to point out how Dong was the one that pushed MS to unvote himself so there's that strong possibility of MS/McQueen/Dong. If there's no Mafia daychat that could have just been Dong's way of saying "Unvote yourself, you're going to make us all lose."

In this game, voting for a scum partner is a really, really bad play because of the setup, and you'll *have* to backtrack if they get close to lynch range, so yes, voting for a partner won't happen. But again, this game is full of bad plays so who knows. It's indicative at worst, though.

Whatever I do is going to be a "clever plot" if you're tunneled on my being scum. Dispute the arguments I'm making.

So now that we're lynching in VTs, from your post here your theory is that I was disassociating, therefore you'll vote 0ver today, right?

[Michael Scott]

Hot take: Muh now backtracks and will agree with his lover, and 100% commit to an association between me and Lolwagons, and won't vote for 0verki11.

Red, opinions?

[Clemency]

crikey

[Bambi Jay]

Hot take: Muh now backtracks and will agree with his lover, and 100% commit to an association between me and Lolwagons, and won't vote for 0verki11.

Red, opinions?

Nani?

[Michael Scott]

wait is this game nightless

just to clarify this isn't a townslip attempt i just actually didn't notice

Yeah, let's take this as a serious question and not a fakeslip.
This betrays that Clem never *bothered* to gamesolve prior to that post, and was crazy tunneled on me without knowing something as important as this.

For Clem to be town, here, he would have to be *terribly* incompetent. While he shitposts in every game he's in, he's not dumb.

Therefore, by association, 0ver is scum.

[Michael Scott]

What happened to you being the "necessary sacrifice"? Fricken weird that that disappeared.

It didn't, I still think the Dong hammer was bad. The necessary sacrifice was because of your derp and Egix's lack of willingness to gamesolve. Red solves that problem.

[Clemency]

While he shitposts in every game he's in, he's not dumb.

someone gets it
you're still probably scum