micro 840: mystery box of silver (this is over)

[Nibbui]

Hmmm, I think I never posted a read list as well:

[Nibbui] - town
[--] - town lean
[Pink Ball, Skitter, NSG] - nulltown
[tw, mastina, infinite soda, podoroq] - null
[--] - nullscum
[--] - scum lean
[sheepsaysmeep] - scum

[podoboq]

VOTE: sheepsaysmeep

I'm 100% sure this is scum right now.

We're lynching between me and sheep by the way because I've a lot of confidence in this read.

Oo, cool, finally something for me to disagree with. What in the world are you scumreading about sheep?

[Nibbui]

I mean, if I was about to explain this easily I would have already done so in the begin

It's considerably meta but there's independent reasons as well

I get scummy vibes from 551. call it gut.

maybe you and sheep are partners tbh

or maybe sheep with the duck.

[podoboq]

I mean, if I was about to explain this easily I would have already done so in the begin

It's considerably meta but there's independent reasons as well

I get scummy vibes from 551. call it gut.

maybe you and sheep are partners tbh

or maybe sheep with the duck.

Jesus, every sentence here is completely useless. Thanks I guess.

[Nibbui]

I hardly get confident in a read so when I get it's because there's good reasons I would say

therefore you should choose between either me or sheep and since I'm basically a innocent child already for obvtowning to death I think the choice is obvious

it's ok if you don't vote him because he is your buddy though

[Nibbui]

Jesus, every sentence here is completely useless. Thanks I guess.

like, I feel you're simply trying to discredit me because I'm right and that's scummy as well

[podoboq]

Listen, Nibbui, I think you're town, but we haven't played together. I'm not going to treat you like you're Sherlock Holmes, and I'm not just gonna sheep you because you're super confident. I need a reason, which is I why I asked you what that reason is. Then here's a breakdown of your sentences.

1) "If I had any intention of explaining it, I would have already done so."
2) "It's mostly meta, but I have no intention of explaining further."
3) "Also you asking me seems scummy."
4) "Maybe you're partners"
5) "Or maybe something else unrelated. Point is, not explaining my read. Vote there or you're scum."

[Nibbui]

I'm not going to treat you like you're Sherlock Holmesand I'm not just gonna sheep you because you're super confident.

in this case in particular you should though

I need a reason, which is I why I asked you what that reason is.

the reason is that I'm obvtown and I rarely get confident on my scum reads but right now I am so that means he is very probably scum or I am scum.

Do you think I'm scum?

You don't so vote sheep me

Then here's a breakdown of your sentences.

1) "If I had any intention of explaining it, I would have already done so."
2) "It's mostly meta, but I have no intention of explaining further."
3) "Also you asking me seems scummy."
4) "Maybe you're partners"
5) "Or maybe something else unrelated. Point is, not explaining my read. Vote there or you're scum."

in "1)" you're being missrep, I didn't say I wouldn't explain it, I said I wouldn't explain

right now

. The way you changed the phrase is scummy as hell and we should probably lynch you before LyLo.

The other points are kind of missrep as well but anyway they're righteous. I caught sheep and the fact you're refusing to consider it indicates you may be his partner although duck town read on him is pretty telling as well.

[podoboq]

What you call a "misrep" is very clearly me being sassy, but alright, we'll be dead serious here.

I believe sheep is town. You don't. To be fair, you appear significantly more confident, and I don't exactly have a lot of respect for my ability to read players, so yeah, I'm taking this disagreement seriously.

But I'm not good at reading players. I have sheep is higher town than you. The fact that you're 1v1ing out of nothing sways that probably, but still. I can't just instantly sheep you. There is over a week left, and I still want InfiniteSoda and NSG to actually get in here. I'm not voting that slot right now. I asked you for an explanation, because I wanted to see what you saw. The fact that you don't think that's important is troublesome. It doesn't mean you're scum, because that'd be some pretty overt and terrible scum play, but it's still troublesome.

[Nibbui]

But I'm not good at reading players. I have sheep is higher town than you.

Why.

This doesn't make sense.

I never keep joking about being scum and do that silly scum slip 3 pages ago as scum. No one does.

so why would sheep actually be townier than me?

I can't just instantly sheep you.

you actually can

It doesn't mean you're scum, because that'd be some pretty overt and terrible scum play, but it's still troublesome.

Exactly it would be terrible play and no one does that so shouldn't you put me higher than sheep in the town list?

sheep is only towny superficially and there's nothing he couldn't have faked in his ISO

my ISO is full of things scum don't do though

[Nibbui]

Even in the 1% possibility that I'm wrong on sheep I would already know who is scum in day 2 anyway

that's why it's pro-town to sheep me here

[Nibbui]

podoboq saying that sheep is higher in the town list than me that has:

1 - scum claimed in the entrance
2 - been engaged in the game
3 - joked about being scum 3 pages ago

is pretty telling as well

It's probably [sheep/podoboq] or at least one of them. I'm like, 100% on this.

If I ever, ever, ever am wrong, lynching duck after those two at least get us one scum

so the order is basically "sheep > podoboq > duck".

just watch now they trying to scum read me after consistently town reading me because I called it out.

[podoboq]

But I'm not good at reading players. I have sheep is higher town than you.

Why.

This doesn't make sense.

I never keep joking about being scum and do that silly scum slip 3 pages ago as scum. No one does.

so why would sheep actually be townier than me?

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sheep is only towny superficially and there's nothing he couldn't have faked in his ISO

my ISO is full of things scum don't do though

Scum can, and will, do anything. Scum can fake anything in their ISO.

I don't know you, I don't know how you play scum. Why do I have to explain my townread on sheep if you can't explain your scumread on him?


I've got only one idea for why you wouldn't be explaining your scumread on sheep, but you have to know that I don't

know

that. There's a lot of time left in this day phase. I'm not just blindly trusting you.

[podoboq]

just watch now they trying to scum read me after consistently town reading me because I called it out.

Listen, Nibbui, I think you're town

I still believe you're town, what is this garbage?

[podoboq]

Nibbui, the fact that you just assume that I'm scum, and buddies with sheep, just because I don't have confidence in YOUR confidence, is horrible play. By all means, to other players, if you know Nibbui better, feel free to vote sheep or even lynch him if you think Nibbui is on the right track here. I just can't, because I don't know Nibbui, I can't trust that his reads are perfect, and I don't even know for sure that he's town.

I'm more convinced that he's town now, after this stupid argument, but I'm also less convinced that he's a better player than I am.

[Nibbui]

Scum can, and will, do anything. Scum can fake anything in their ISO.

no there's exactly a 0% chance of me being scum here after what I did even without considering meta

after considering meta there's a negative chance of me being scum here because scum me is pretty stiff and self-conscious,

everyone

that has meta on me already said so didn't them?

Why do I have to explain my townread on sheep if you can't explain your scumread on him?

I don't want to reveal my tells on him and I'm waiting for tw to come here because I think he is his buddy. or you.

You don't have any reason to not explain though so that's just scummy

I've got only one idea for why you wouldn't be explaining your scumread on sheep, but you have to know that I don't

know

that.

you seem to be role fishing here but I already am going to tell that that's not it. I'm not a daycop or anything.

this part makes your scum equity higher btw.

There's a lot of time left in this day phase. I'm not just blindly trusting you.

If you're town this is troublesome.

[podoboq]

you seem to be role fishing here but I already am going to tell that that's not it. I'm not a daycop or anything.

Not intentionally rolefishing. I was trying to be as obtuse as possible, while still demonstrating that I'm trying to hear you, but apparently you misread it anyway. I assumed you picked up on a crumb from sheep. I've never been able to crumb hunt myself, so I don't know if there's anything there, but I understand why a potential crumb could put you over the edge with him. I just don't see any of it, so I can't just follow the idea of it.

[Nibbui]

I'm more convinced that he's town now, after this stupid argument,

Exactly, you've got this right.

I never as scum try to strongarm anyone, there's tons of example of that and I can post they here again. I'm town here. Anyone that doubts that is just bad or scum.

What you still need to understand though it's that sheep is scum because it's rare for me to get such a confidence in a read

but I'm also less convinced that he's a better player than I am.

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it's not about being better or worse it's about the fact that sheep is scum and that my lynch pool order give us a town win here

[podoboq]

it's not about being better or worse it's about the fact that sheep is scum and that my lynch pool order give us a town win here

Only if you're right, and I'm town, and I townread TW and sheep, so are you seeing the issue with asking others to follow you're logic here?

[Nibbui]

you seem to be role fishing here but I already am going to tell that that's not it. I'm not a daycop or anything.

Not intentionally rolefishing. I was trying to be as obtuse as possible, while still demonstrating that I'm trying to hear you, but apparently you misread it anyway. I assumed you picked up on a crumb from sheep. I've never been able to crumb hunt myself, so I don't know if there's anything there, but I understand why a potential crumb could put you over the edge with him. I just don't see any of it, so I can't just follow the idea of it.

why do you think that scum would crumb anyway?

they could crumb about being a town PR but there's no reason to scum read them for that

also, if I was trying to lynch someone after sensing they crumbed, wouldn't I be the one rolefishing and wouldn't that be scummy?

maybe you're just his partner tbh

[Nibbui]

it's not about being better or worse it's about the fact that sheep is scum and that my lynch pool order give us a town win here

Only if you're right, and I'm town, and I townread TW and sheep, so are you seeing the issue with asking others to follow you're logic here?

no I'm just seeing you being scummy tbh

but I already can see that most of you guys probably won't sheep me and I'll be ignored for days and days only to find myself in LyLo with sheep

I can maybe and just maybe forgive you guys now but on that moment if you guys vote me instead of sheep I'll be salty as hell

I'm not even in the mood to insist on this anymore though

/shrug

[podoboq]

you seem to be role fishing here but I already am going to tell that that's not it. I'm not a daycop or anything.

Not intentionally rolefishing. I was trying to be as obtuse as possible, while still demonstrating that I'm trying to hear you, but apparently you misread it anyway. I assumed you picked up on a crumb from sheep. I've never been able to crumb hunt myself, so I don't know if there's anything there, but I understand why a potential crumb could put you over the edge with him. I just don't see any of it, so I can't just follow the idea of it.

why do you think that scum would crumb anyway?

they could crumb about being a town PR but there's no reason to scum read them for that

also, if I was trying to lynch someone after sensing they crumbed, wouldn't I be the one rolefishing and wouldn't that be scummy?

maybe you're just his partner tbh

As scum, I've tried to crumb to set up a fake claim later. Is that not common practice for you?

I was thinking you'd picked up a crumb, for some reason disbelieved it (maybe because you had a PR that conflicted), and that was your logic.

Since apparently this has nothing to do with your scumread anyway, it feels like it doesn't matter to talk about it openly.

[podoboq]

no I'm just seeing you being scummy tbh

This is just OMGUS. I don't agree with you, so I'm scum?

but I already can see that most of you guys probably won't sheep me and I'll be ignored for days and days only to find myself in LyLo with sheep

I can maybe and just maybe forgive you guys now but on that moment if you guys vote me instead of sheep I'll be salty as hell

I'm not even in the mood to insist on this anymore though

/shrug

I'm the only one here right now, and everybody apparently knows you better than me.

Please

don't drop this.

Please

talk to the other players, and interact with them about this. If you believe sheep is scum, don't just drop that. I want to understand why, and maybe talking to other players will help clarify what is going through your head.

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