micro 840: mystery box of silver (this is over)

[sheepsaysmeep]

ive also been somewhat subconsciously but slowly realizing that i am factoring postcount/thread presence into my v reads rn

not necessarily going to stop that as i think that's a reliable tell with how the thread feels aorn

[Nibbui]

that's weird imo

anyway, do you feel that infinite is scummy as well? I kinda feel it

[the worst]

pink ball/skitter/podo lean w

*lean v

lol thank fuck
be careful on skitter but otherwise these reads are fine

and very similar to mine o.0

[sheepsaysmeep]

infinite im back and forth on

i think their popping in without acknowledging what was happenign was kinda wolfy because there was major stuff going on as he jsut popped in and voted a 0 poster and didnt seem to care about doing anything/solving at the time in a wolfy way?


i just want to interact with the slot/seee them actually do things rn though

[sheepsaysmeep]

and very similar to mine o.0

yeah thats making me more confident lol

[the worst]

tw first because this one is... easier to explain

he hates wolfing and he's bascially kinda frozen/struggles to produce good content

and feels really nervous/awkwardly pop in pop out in thread

i havent seen tw village in so long but literally if i couldnt see his name or avatar i would never guess that this was tw from how different it is

I'm a lot more comfortable w with a playerlist/site culture I'm more familiar and comfortable with but also you're correct that my svumagem is closer to what you've seen

just don't be surprised if you check my onsite wolf meta lmao

[the worst]

why pink

I think it's because I'm adorable

that's pretty reasonable yes

I'll call you Reasonable Ball from now on

ADORABALL

[Nibbui]

is NSG actually scum?



how confident you are on your scum lean in NSG sheep?

[sheepsaysmeep]

fairly confident rn and i dont see much changing for me in the near future

i think she's way more capable than what shes posted so far and tw's meta of her being very prominent in thread as villa while hating wolfing is very agreeable/accurate

she's getting concerningly more wolfy and needs to be resolved as time goes on

[sheepsaysmeep]

gtg eat but bbiab prolly

[the worst]

@sheep
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=29653

skitter30 rep'd into a wolf slot
thoughts?

[the worst]

no

i thought it was blatantly wolfy but ended up deciding that mastina's posting was just a personality thing and her posting style caused the snap reaction

^^^^^^^^^^^^^
she's Doing Something but idk whether it's town or scum

[Nibbui]

f
i think she's way more capable than what shes posted so far and tw's meta of her being very prominent in thread as villa while hating wolfing is very agreeable/accurate

how you actually know tw's meta on her?

[northsidegal]

i have no idea what it is about this game that makes me not want to play it. everything seems like it should be pointing towards an enjoyable game: the setup, the playerlist. not sure what it is.

there are a lot of things i could say here. i guess i'll just say be fair to the replacement, don't let scum use this as an easy mislynch, and don't think that i'm incompetent or incapable of doing literally anything as scum: i'm not, and you need to make anyone who claims to be familiar with my meta specifically own up to concrete examples of behavior.

anyways.

@mod, please replace me.

sorry.

[Nibbui]

hmmm

I don't want to tunnel here but this is so + scum equity...

[the worst]

I would never imply you're incompetent as scum. Just that you enjoy playing it less than you enjoy playing town, and it shows. I was hoping if you're town you'd be able to show us a glimmer.

[Nibbui]

I just researched for a bit and it seems NSG hasn't replaced out of a game it's been quite a bit of time really, and

add that to her entrance post and maybe she really was unmotivated scum and did that case on me because I was a good diplomatic scum read and maybe that reasoning of tone/word-choice was the unique thing she could come up with as surprising to me as it seems to be.

VOTE: NSG

[Nibbui]

@mod I may be wrong but infinite soda needs a prod?

[Nibbui]

by the way I don't think mastina posts are towny neither I do think infinite looks necessarily scummy

it was more to try to sort ou sheep than anything.

both are strongly at null until I give them a look later with some special glasses.

[sheepsaysmeep]

f
i think she's way more capable than what shes posted so far and tw's meta of her being very prominent in thread as villa while hating wolfing is very agreeable/accurate

how you actually know tw's meta on her?

i had played with her before/spectated some games

[sheepsaysmeep]

rip nsg ):

was looking forward to playing with you

[Nibbui]

i just watched two games with tw wolf

i barely even loosely followed the second one

but tw is fucking clear here too

dont throw

I need to comment on this though

tw scum play on this site might be different from what you've seen from him in MU

I don't think tw is ever a easy read like you're saying here

[skitter30]

ok i have some motivation for this now; idk if i'll go through all like 9 pages tho, we'll see; if i do it'll def be in more than one post

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i still feel really good about town!nibbui
i'm not feeling very good about tw tho still.

i don't really like that his attitude towards pink ball is: 'cbf'd to try to read so i'll put him as nullscum and i'm fine lynching him'; i dont' really know if i've ever seen you take that approach before and it doesn't feel right to me. and when he reached out to you you kinda shut him down

Yes, at this point I feel more confident about my ability to Stare Into The Void and read mastina than my ability to read you. And?

like i don't like this. maybe you really hate his playstyle but you're like purposefully not trying to sort him i feel like. and you're almost like trying to dismiss trying to reach out to you? it feels wrong

I don't think I have shaded you in our interactions, sorry of you feel that way. I want to be clear with you: I'm really confused by your tone towards me 'cause I really don't get your opinion about me. It seems fake, like not reading me is convenient for you.

i agree that it feels fake tbh

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i don't particularly have a problem with nsg's nibbui push tbh; i more have aproblem with the fact that she disappeared after that; i feel like ellitell, while not being like a 100% tell, is a semi-decent indicator and we're kinda in that category here

Nibbui (1): northsidegal

nsg is ridiculously adverse to bussing btw
in taz she didn't vote a partner *once*

and in a bunch of scumgames of hers that i checked in that game i could only find one other example of her voting a partner iirc - in american presidents, she started out voting her partner in rvs and then repped out shorlty thereafter without changing her vote

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whatever nibbui's been doing these last two pages feels textbook

twtbw

?? what does this acronym mean?

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Nibbui, the fact that you just assume that I'm scum, and buddies with sheep, just because I don't have confidence in YOUR confidence, is horrible play. By all means, to other players, if you know Nibbui better, feel free to vote sheep or even lynch him if you think Nibbui is on the right track here. I just can't, because I don't know Nibbui, I can't trust that his reads are perfect, and I don't even know for sure that he's town.

I'm more convinced that he's town now, after this stupid argument, but I'm also less convinced that he's a better player than I am.

this is pretty townie imo

I'm the only one here right now, and everybody apparently knows you better than me. Please don't drop this. Please talk to the other players, and interact with them about this. If you believe sheep is scum, don't just drop that. I want to understand why, and maybe talking to other players will help clarify what is going through your head.

this too

VOTE: sheep

There. Now stay, and talk to us. Don't leave this game and go mope just because I don't understand what's going on with you.

and this one

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Basically I'm in your PoE and conftown to myself

... Our reads are almost upside down and you aren't doing anything to convince me on anything

so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be doing except laughing at you??

this post feels wrong, especially the bolded

(i think it's because using knowing your own alignment to claim that his reads are upside down feels a little fallacious?)

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Let's do this one

Why are you townreading skitter? I'm frankly not

yes, let's talk about this

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ok new post now, five pages to go

[the worst]

What's your problem wrt me referring to knowing my own alignment?

I also figure you'll see where I was coming from with Punk Bill but if not lmk

[skitter30]

not sure how my reaction would be different because you presented me with a situation where you're

objectively wrong on me

+ have ~4 reads I dislike? there's no other way for me to respond to it than ask for more information and point out that it presents as laughable

why is he objectively wrong on you?

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I mean, I appreciate self-meta so I don't mind if you try to explain how scum!you would be different here.

I haven't really thought about how I'd wolf against this list sorry

From a reaction test POV no, I don't think there's any way I can respond differently regardless of alignment. I'd like to see what you think is AI about it

you're starting to remind me a lot of american presidents

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I don't think skitter has done anything AI and I think she'd agree with that

i actually think i disagre with this, thank you very much

her real-times were pretty semantically focused and didn't feel all that productive and towny to me, like skitter knows I know that skitter knows her towntell is ability to hold real-time interactions so I think this might be how scum!skitter gets around that

i think that this is prob a fair take wrt the semantically-minded convos but the one from a couple of nights ago with pink ball i'm pretty sure is out of my scumrange

i'm also like sortable by post-count most of the time and like ... look at the activity overview

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Take it easy skitter, mental health comes first always. <33

I hope you get better soon skitter

<3 tyty

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tinfoil-y showerthought but if nsg is scum tw could be scum with her imo

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i honestly dont know right now nibbui

im actually very confident on all of my towns to some degree rn but i think the three lhf is too easy and im fucking up somewhere

i dont' think teh answer is just: nsg/soda

i still think soda is prob about to flake and we should just wait for a replacement

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I was hiding all this time but I've been finding mastina posts pretty towny, don't you kinda feel it as well sheep?

i disagree; i think they're at best null

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@sheep
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.p ... ct[]=29653

skitter30 rep'd into a wolf slot
thoughts?

i am very interested in hearing how you may think that game looks anything like this one

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i think nsg's rep-out is scum-indciative for her tbh
in that spate of games i checked during taz i found a bunch of games where she flaked and i'm iirc i'm pretty sure none of them were town