[Game Over] Open 743 - The Crown of Misery

[Creature]

rb (L-3)

: Thor665, Something_Smart, Lamees

Thor665 (L-4)

: Creature, rb

Lamees (L-5)

: DarkLightA

DarkLightA (L-5)

: Egix96

Malakitty (L-5)

: Auro

Nako, Leodanny, Malakitty

Nako is the other town

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The soulreads

[Egix96]

Nako is the other town

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The soulreads

Yeah okay I hadn't got to that bit yet at the time.

[rb]

A generally townread player who's a claimed PR -- do you really think that's a brilliant ML for scum to push?

Can you describe what makes Lam town to you? And why she can't be scum executing what I agree is a great strat?

- That's... actually a very good point, I hadn't thought of that.

- Some posts of Lamees's that make me think she's town:

1143 - Refuses to hammer a townie

1179 - I think it's unlikely a member of the scum would give any indication of which roles their team has. Even if the intent is to mislead town by saying the scum have those roles when they actually don't. (TBF I have seen that happen before - NFM 62 - but that was on another site.)

1221 - I've already commented on this one, but to add to what I said - would scum really be that open in saying that town are on course to lose the game?

I will say though, if I am wrong about her and she is scum who's only pretending to be an angel, then I can't fault her for being so committed to it.

scared to hammer is often scum for the same reason that people who sheep wagons are usually scum as well. scum rarely want the attention of being either the hammer or the beginner of their own independent wagon, it's the most polarising spots to be on.

so you've seen that happen before, and ime scum will often make mechanics talk because they want to try and covertly learn more about the mechanics of the game

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

last bit gives me the heebie majeebies

[rb]

wow i wish leodanny was a player in this game

[Egix96]

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

It didn't read like frustration to me though.

[Lamees]

A generally townread player who's a claimed PR -- do you really think that's a brilliant ML for scum to push?

Can you describe what makes Lam town to you? And why she can't be scum executing what I agree is a great strat?

- That's... actually a very good point, I hadn't thought of that.

- Some posts of Lamees's that make me think she's town:

1143 - Refuses to hammer a townie

1179 - I think it's unlikely a member of the scum would give any indication of which roles their team has. Even if the intent is to mislead town by saying the scum have those roles when they actually don't. (TBF I have seen that happen before - NFM 62 - but that was on another site.)

1221 - I've already commented on this one, but to add to what I said - would scum really be that open in saying that town are on course to lose the game?

I will say though, if I am wrong about her and she is scum who's only pretending to be an angel, then I can't fault her for being so committed to it.

scared to hammer is often scum for the same reason that people who sheep wagons are usually scum as well. scum rarely want the attention of being either the hammer or the beginner of their own independent wagon, it's the most polarising spots to be on.

so you've seen that happen before, and ime scum will often make mechanics talk because they want to try and covertly learn more about the mechanics of the game

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

last bit gives me the heebie majeebies

Yeah, timid scum would know the alignment of the player about to be lynched and thus not hammer to avoid the attention. One problem with this theory is that I didnt lurk and wait for the hammer from someone else, like a normal timid scum would do, I posted intent not to hammer, which would possibly gain even more attention than not hammering.

[Lamees]

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

It didn't read like frustration to me though.

He's trying to project his frustration onto others. Just vote him. It's entertaining when he flails.

[rb]

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

It didn't read like frustration to me though.

um

what does it read as to you then?

[rb]

egix: opinions on thor pls

[Egix96]

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

It didn't read like frustration to me though.

He's trying to project his frustration onto others. Just vote him. It's entertaining when he flails.

You're not the boss of me!
I'll have a think about it though.

yes, scum would fake frustration in order to look town? obviously?

It didn't read like frustration to me though.

um

what does it read as to you then?

"My entire house is burning down around me, the flames are melting my flesh off, but I feel fine."

[rb]

okay, so who's town and who's scum den

[Thor665]

for real spat out my water laughing when i read that

How To Identify Awesome Lynch
- Creature defends it? Not awesome
- Creature doesn't defend it? Awesome

ok m8

That's a good point, when you combine something you're misrepping me as saying with something...DA said I think, then it sounds kind of silly if you then pretend it was the same person.

Oh man, good scumhunting, good scumhunting.

[Creature]

wow i wish leodanny was a player in this game

"let's just leave someone with two weeks+ V/LA post whenever they want, even if only after two weeks"

[Auro]

Gah, I'm on the fence regarding RB.

His play reminds me a bit of town!Lamees from Newbie 1893, where everyone rushed a wagon on her cause "obvious scum lulz" and she was flailing...

I want to hear from Mala, Nako and Leo.

[Malakittens]

I think DLA is right and Lamees is lynchproof tbh

Dumb angel to push because if DLA thought that of me, why is he voting me? According to this logic I'm being hit with, voting me is then equivalent to voting no lynch. Since I'm lynch proof. Stop please.

I am fine with rb/dla/auro lynch today (that order)

Why am I no longer in the lynch pile??

[Malakitty]

I think DLA is right and Lamees is lynchproof tbh

Dumb angel to push because if DLA thought that of me, why is he voting me? According to this logic I'm being hit with, voting me is then equivalent to voting no lynch. Since I'm lynch proof. Stop please.

I am fine with rb/dla/auro lynch today (that order)

Why am I no longer in the lynch pile??

Rip

[Auro]

Any other thoughts on the current gamestate?

[MiniDeathStar]

Notice

Leodanny

and

Nako

have been prodded.

[rb]

mala pls

[Lamees]

I think DLA is right and Lamees is lynchproof tbh

Dumb angel to push because if DLA thought that of me, why is he voting me? According to this logic I'm being hit with, voting me is then equivalent to voting no lynch. Since I'm lynch proof. Stop please.

I am fine with rb/dla/auro lynch today (that order)

Why am I no longer in the lynch pile??

You are, just not priority. Flip info > day 1 reads.

But you were on the wagon and we should definitely lynch on the wagon today because I feel there are two or three scum on there.

[Lamees]

Gah, I'm on the fence regarding RB.

His play reminds me a bit of town!Lamees from Newbie 1893, where everyone rushed a wagon on her cause "obvious scum lulz" and she was flailing...

I want to hear from Mala, Nako and Leo.

Except I was town and had no votes on me. I was game solving with no pressure and got accused of flailing (with no votes!) because I changed my reads and was just thinking out loud. Changing votes with no pressure does NOT equal flailing. Unless you think I as town just randomly decided to flail out of nowhere to gather a wagon on myself.

What rb is doing is AFTER votes piled on and we don't know his alignment. Therefore reads as scum under pressure who is flailing OR as thor pointed out, scum trying to distract/"muddy the water" with lots of different unreadable posts and votes.

[Lamees]

Tbh flailing is probably not even really a thing. But what rb was doing fits that word nicely so I used it.

[rb]

Tbh flailing is probably not even really a thing. But what rb was doing fits that word nicely so I used it.

wowee how confbiased are you right now

[Lamees]

It's two completely different situations either way.

[rb]

even though i play like this all the time, i'm flailing because...i guess it makes it a convenient excuse for you to confbias?

que sera?