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Post Post #1325 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:07 am

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In post 1290, Vorkuta wrote:Like NC goes line by line through my ISO and points out that I'm not doing 100% town things with every single one of my posts.
He cherrypicked posts where you didn't do anything. Maybe you can do the inverse?
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Post Post #1326 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:08 am

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In post 1290, Vorkuta wrote:Some of you do give out town reads left and right for literally the dumbest reasons imaginable- case in point garbage (no offense creature ) like this
lmao check the post number

I think I have changed that read through day 1
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Post Post #1327 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:09 am

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In post 250, Creature wrote:I'm probably giving a way too easy townread on rb
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Post Post #1328 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:11 am

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I have this cherrypicking problem too. People on MU would quote about half my posts that they consider contentless and argue that I didn't do anything, then I would ask them: "what about the other half?"
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Post Post #1329 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:12 am

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In post 1290, Vorkuta wrote:Cool at L-1 now. Not claiming without an intent to hammer.
Remember who's on my wagon and who's not on my wagon.

DDL and BEF just passively jumped on it because 'meh why not'. Hell- in DDL's case this basically started off as a counter wagon so he'll gladly jump on any life raft offered.
Oka.... gave up on the mbaki lynch attempt.
Mbaki and NC are actively pushing it, and providing (bad) reasons for them.
Who do you think would scumread you the less as town?
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Post Post #1330 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:15 am

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In post 1291, DrDolittle wrote:should we stall the lynch for as long as possible so that when day 3 rolls around leo and varsoon will be back from vla and forced to participate
Well, thankfully Leodanny is about to get replaced. If mod let him not post one week because of some shitty V/LA when he was pretty aware when he signed up to play this game then I would replace out as a riot.

Varsoon is clearly prod-dodging, but still respecting the activity rules. Well, in that case it's up for us to lynch him because he's either clearly scum or town being a nuisance.
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Post Post #1331 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:16 am

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And I don't want the day over anyway. I'm not yet happy with this lynch and there are too many players "blending in" to feel good about this lynch. I expected more movimentation if we were actually hitting scum.
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Post Post #1332 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:18 am

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In post 1292, OkaPoka wrote:i guess

zzz

but that means we are going to be prodging until deadline? sounds like how you kill momentum
If you feel so convinced Vork must be scum, then you can use your time to develop a townblock (preferably not relying on a scumflip though). It's not very enjoyable when a player is like "I'm convinced X is scum, let's end the day so we can see his/her flip"
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Post Post #1333 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:19 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:Obviously I'd love to completely town read suka and varsoon for defending me
They were defending you? Where?
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Post Post #1334 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:21 am

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In post 1323, Creature wrote:
In post 1288, mbaki wrote:
In post 1284, northsidegal wrote:[1] mbaki : Vorkuta 1119
[1] Varsoon : Creature 1033
[1] BrightEyedFish : Suka 1168
[1] DrDolittle : Varsoon 1257
[1] Suka : Kmd4390 1260

[1] Not Voting : Leodanny
Lol.
You see: no real counterwagon attempt. The only players actually doing something are all targetting each other.
This is such an awful argument, man. I was at l-2 so you could call me the counterwagon, but he only has 1 partner and that's only 1 vote to start one. There's 4 other wagons total.
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Post Post #1335 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:22 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:Oka has been
harassed
bullied by mbaki the entire time
That's some serious accusation to make as scum...
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Post Post #1336 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:22 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:tries to do experiment with something new
NAI

It could've been pre-planned before the receival of role PM.
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Post Post #1337 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:23 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:I'll defer to the rest of you on what his alignment is because the amount of fluff posting and completely unwarranted random 'X is town' or 'X is scum' without any explanation and selective ignoring of certain questions screams scum to me.
You actually described my towngame, congrats.
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Post Post #1338 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:24 am

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Selectively ignoring certain questions is my favorite.
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Post Post #1339 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:25 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:Varsoon I town read for the same reason I town read Suka
Suka reads as someone who has successfully avoided a wagon and is now trying to force push a BEF agenda.
Huh what?
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Post Post #1340 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:29 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:BEF has been bullied by mbaki (and a few others )
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Post Post #1341 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:30 am

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In post 1294, Vorkuta wrote:I get the feeling that there's a bit of LAMIST in his posts
Something good to start.
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Post Post #1342 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:31 am

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In post 1296, mbaki wrote:Please don't townread that awful post because it has a lot of words.
What about the bully part?
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Post Post #1343 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:32 am

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In post 1300, mbaki wrote:Vorkuta is literally townreading those who townread him reflexively.
He doesn't seem to be townreading me...
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Post Post #1344 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:34 am

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In post 1334, mbaki wrote:
In post 1323, Creature wrote:
In post 1288, mbaki wrote:
In post 1284, northsidegal wrote:[1] mbaki : Vorkuta 1119
[1] Varsoon : Creature 1033
[1] BrightEyedFish : Suka 1168
[1] DrDolittle : Varsoon 1257
[1] Suka : Kmd4390 1260

[1] Not Voting : Leodanny
Lol.
You see: no real counterwagon attempt. The only players actually doing something are all targetting each other.
This is such an awful argument, man. I was at l-2 so you could call me the counterwagon, but he only has 1 partner and that's only 1 vote to start one. There's 4 other wagons total.
Actually I think he appeared as a counterwagon to you...
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Post Post #1345 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 3:57 am

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I'll get to the rest later, but Creature, can you link a town instance where you've defended somebody similarly to this?
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Post Post #1346 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:01 am

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My memory is not very good, but I'll try to find it.
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Post Post #1347 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:13 am

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https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=55&t=72542 is the best example I could find.

In the last day I pegged the entire scumteam (3 left) and I had to defend a clear mislynch from some other dumbtown, still I failed.

Though, at that game I didn't put much reasoning behind, only kept pointing scum are obviously the three I pointed.
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Post Post #1348 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:14 am

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I also remember I had plenty of games I said "he/she's flipping town", but I just didn't put much effort into defending them and they obviously ended flipping town.
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Post Post #1349 (ISO) » Fri Dec 28, 2018 4:14 am

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The reason I let plenty of mislynches go is because of my irrational fear of being wrong.
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