Mini Normal 2046: Autumn's Farewell [Endgame]

[Varsoon]

Damn Creature, go be a less mean pokemon again.

varsoon would u like to elaborate on ddl

Dude's scum, what's there to elaborate on?
B-sides, I don't have a ton of great leads otherwise.

[Creature]

What about townreads?

[Kmd4390]

V/LA until Sunday night

[OkaPoka]

creature, rb probs left a crumb/crumbs but scum didn't pick up on it. sure its possible that he didn't crumb at all, but im willing to say that he did because it makes the most sense and its where the content leads us to.

i think trying to find townblocs to make is kinda stupid so im not going to do it.

[OkaPoka]

creature u can answer my stances of mbaki and vorkuta but isoing me.

[northsidegal]

VC 2.5

votes

[5] Vorkuta

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DrDolittle 1006, mbaki 1104, Nero Cain 1107, BrightEyedFish 1122, OkaPoka 1269

[1] mbaki

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Vorkuta 1119

[1] Varsoon

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Creature 1033

[1] BrightEyedFish

:

Suka 1168

[1] DrDolittle

:

Varsoon 1257

[1] Suka

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Kmd4390 1260

[1] Not Voting

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Leodanny

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to lynch

The Day 2 deadline is in

: (expired on 2019-01-04 14:37:59)

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Kmd4390 is V/LA until Sunday.

[OkaPoka]

am i really that mumbo jumbo, like is the way im posting too hard to follow?

[Creature]

I probably have a trouble understanding why the "mbaki confirmed scum" can be anything more than WIFOM.

[Nero Cain]

I mean, technically Vork was the wagon first and the Oka quickly unvoted.

mbaki wagon did grow after that.

You could prob make an argument from either being counter wagons.

[mbaki]

he only has 1 partner and that's only 1 vote to start one. There's 4 other wagons total.

This was the important part of that post. The "no counterwagons" argument is dumb when there's no team to create resistance.

[Nero Cain]

Yeah, butt Vork's scumbuddy would still likely vote you in a town Mbaki vs. scum Vork case. I also think that scum tend to not really build wagons period, they just add to an existing wagon.

[mbaki]

I was voted by several people, and a couple more voiced a desire to lynch me at a time when it looked like I was going to be the lynch and there was no need to rush things. Also, keep in mind that once I started pushing Vorkuta, on my town flip it is very likely Vorkuta goes next and scum has a

long

way to go after shooting their partner, so it almost makes sense they'd try to lynch outside of myself and Vorkuta.

Nero, what do you make of the last Creature chain of posts? And this part is at Creature too: the reason I asked for a game where Creature had a similar defense to this is I was wondering if town!Creature has ever done this, because Creature "casing" as he has done for Vorkuta town is not what I'm used to. He spent a page of posts largely defending Vorkuta, and this is close to the opposite of what I've seen of Creature on both MU and MS. Specifically, I've seen Creature disagree with lynches, and he has never put close to this much effort into stopping them.

I don't want to get mad at somebody for playing "better" than they normally do, but it feels an awful lot to me like Creature and Vorkuta could be the solve and that's an explanation for this lurking -> defensive posting. I don't want to say that though, at least yet, because I appreciate Creature engaging.

[Nero Cain]

Oka is scumreading Vork? I thought he was on mbaki all day.

maybe you should play instead of lurk most of the time then throw down a string of text? but yeah, even b4 I named Vork as the guy that was potentially traitor hunting Oka was calling him scum. He still maintains that Vork is scum but has been pushing mbaki until recently.

There are going to be more mislynches b/c there are always going to be more town in a game and most players are bad and scummy anyways.

Yet I still can't say Vork is just bad and scummy town?

I mean you can, I never said you couldn't. Although I'm not at all sure how you think that fits into the conversation we were having like at all.

You actually described my towngame, congrats.

but in the scenario where this is your town game shouldn't you want to lynch one of mbaki or vork?

[Nero Cain]

I still think Creature's content is p bad but then again I always think his content is bad. lol

The situation reminds me of https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76709

I forget the specifics but we were going to lynch a certain player and then Creature was sideline voting (like he's doing here)

[mbaki]

So do you think Creature and Vorkuta are partners, or are the reads seperate?

[Nero Cain]

I mean, if Vork is scum only one of Creature/Oka can be scum. I still lean Oka or maybe Vork is town and it's Oka/Creature. Idk.

but flipping Vork makes alot of sense to me.

[mbaki]

Vork flip needs to be the flip today, but even if he's town I don't really see Oka as scum.

[Nero Cain]

use your words.

[Creature]

but in the scenario where this is your town game shouldn't you want to lynch one of mbaki or vork?

That's assuming I'm a sheep, but I like to have my own reads.

[Creature]

but in the scenario where this is your town game shouldn't you want to lynch one of mbaki or vork?

That's assuming I'm a sheep, but I like to have my own reads.

[Creature]

I still think Creature's content is p bad but then again I always think his content is bad. lol

The situation reminds me of https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=76709

I forget the specifics but we were going to lynch a certain player and then Creature was sideline voting (like he's doing here)

I was practically going with the consensus there. Like, if I was scum with Vork/mbaki, I would likely be voting the other.

[mbaki]

use your words.

His play doesn't feel very scummy to me. I guess that's all there is to it. I don't have him as a strong town read at this point, but he's not in my top 3 and probably 5 slots to pursue.

[Creature]

I mean, if Vork is scum only one of Creature/Oka can be scum. I still lean Oka or maybe Vork is town and it's Oka/Creature. Idk.

but flipping Vork makes alot of sense to me.

I don't think you're doing your detective job well.

[Creature]

Vork flip needs to be the flip today

Are you ready for a townflip?

[mbaki]

Vork flip needs to be the flip today

Are you ready for a townflip?

I've thought about it as a possibility. The strongest point for it is him killing rb despite rb claiming scum to him. Overall, though, it seems wildly unlikely and razor would have me lynch Vorkuta. This is doubly so because I wanted him lynched yesterday as well.